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MASHLE: Magic and Muscles Discussion Thread
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Wow I must have missed that upgrade and feat
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Though with how weird Dark Magic has been functioning into a brute force attack late in the series because the author realized it was too OP, that probably works in the favor of a 5-B rating I guess
It also isn't a casual feat
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That new feat might add justification. I mean the world itself is massive. I think it’s a super continent
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If there are scans that can allow for a calc then maybeee, otherwise it's normally assumed to be Earth-sized iirc
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No I meant a supercontinent as in an amalgamation of continents.
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In addition to the "destroy the world" statement that shouldn't count because EE but Darkness magic is nerfed by the author's power, it still has the multipliers of seconds, summons and thirds that increase the Ap of sorcerers that Mash scales.
Only the brothers' fights must have given a lot of multiplier and the Doom must have increased more, since every second, summons or thirds is a 10x multiplier. So 10x10x10 = 1000x
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I'm torn between "Dark magic is EE therefore not AP applicable" and "Dark magic is AP applicable but the EE hax is nerfed/nonexistent by the end", which one lowballs IZ the most?
Mfw the author used up all his creative juices by the the IZ fight and only left a few drops for Mash.
Mfw the author used up all his creative juices by the the IZ fight and only left a few drops for Mash.
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Actually is more of a 10×10 = 100x thing. Summons and secondth have the same multiplier of 10x, though if you're High 6-C summons just make you go up to 6-B, because Lévis.
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From a wiki point of view, we would probably have like EE because PIS. So I probably couldn't use Ap 5B.
But if someone can argue for it, might it work, except that IZ would probably lose its EE capability?
Secondth = 10x
Summons = 10x
Thirds = 10x
1000x
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No, Secondths and Summons have the same multiplier, Summons just take precedent. And we've never seen any character use all 3 at once, especially since Summons already gives basic spells the power of seconths, it would be redundant.
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Rip bozo no irrelevant speed
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Why the Third spell still Happening when IZ already rewind time that it doesnt ever happen? Or Mash push IZ back to the future is real? I do bit confused.
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Certain powerful Thirds can persist even when the user is defeated. Just look at Wahlberg. I'm assuming Mash really did bring him back to the present.
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I know that Third can't be canceled but IZ Did Rewind the time to evade Walhberg's Third, so if IZ rewind the time then the Darkness Third is Never happened.
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I don't think even the author understood what he did.
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He does work out
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Well if the lack of EE is explained via PIS or WIS then that means nobody gets resistance from it too, which makes sense since I don't think either aspects of the situation has ever been explained. Just talking about it since it was brought up before.
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If we count EE we lose 5-B and people have resistance to EE.
If we count without EE (something that probably won't happen), 5-B will stay but probably nobody will have resistance for being hit by IZ's Darkness.
Probably.
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Where? Where is IZ's Space Magic?
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This one what i was wondering too ngl
I would love if iz can mix space and time magic make something even more op that was we never thought
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Yes. The author totally forgot about it. Seriously, IZ's powers were so wasted.
And the manga is not over, ignore what I said.
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Did you see the spoilers? I'm 99.99% sure the fight is over.
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I personally think there was EE before but there simply wasn't anymore EE with the magic IZ is using now.
But this is probably an unpopular take.
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And I'm doubtful about 5-B. The giant ball hit the surface and didn't explode everything. Of course, there may be some explanation in the middle of the chapter since we only have leaks, but it's something to think about.
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Dark Magic was never EE to begin with
It's BFR
It's BFR
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Why do you think that?
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Because it only sends everything to the void, PRACTICALLY erasing it
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I'll see the raws.
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I saw the raws, that's right. It's just that I usually look for another translation.
In that case, what are we going to do with that Darkness Magic from IZ that seems to be totally AP and not BFR?
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Maybe IZ can make it physical, or maybe that's part of the Eclipse
I think saying that Dark Magic can be physical isn't a stretch, seeing as how in other forms of destruction, steam is present, showing that it can be vaporization.
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It was already physical before Eclipse. When he destroyed the city.
So let's try to put it as AP + BFR?
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Yeah, that seems good. I mean, if only we had gotten some steam on those mountains Adam destroyed, would've been excellent in AP.....
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Is the fight over? where is space magic?
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He's using his secret 4th personal magic: [Illusionz thirdz - Kyoka Suigetsu] IZ never dies
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Could we use the Blue Ray cover for Mash's profile?
