Masadaverse Discussion thread 18

[Arianrhod_The_Sept-Terrion_Eternal]

Now I want a female Reinhard! This is like how I want a female Gilgamesh.

 

[Warren_Valion]

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

That's his daughter you perv

 

[UnknownGodXXX]

This is from VNW on his video about Dies Irae ~AA~ Pantheon Prologue. I know his English subs are bad, it has lots of grammatical errors but putting that aside. Was it or was it not stated im this scan that an infinite number of Muzans aren't comparable to Hajun? I'm asking this to those that can understand Japanese kanji. If so then how did Muzan cut Hajun's finger off, how did he even affect Hajun from the first place?

Sooo... Taikyoku differences doesn't matter in DIP? Or is it being thrown away just like how "DB" threw their power level stuffs?

 

[TonySansNom]

Now I want a female Reinhard! This is like how I want a female Gilgamesh.

Was Reinhard born blond because of Mercurius' vision on Marie or is it just because of muh aryan apoptosis?

 

[EvilMegaCookie]

So why are you using it then considering just how atrocious just that one scan alone is. >.>

 

[Shivansh_Garg]

So why are you using it then considering just how atrocious just that one scan alone is. >.>

I think he's only complaining about grammar, which doesn't necessarily contradicts the Muzan feat

 

[Eganergo]

Yeah since this is a game, i guess they throw away the concept of Taikyoku in this game. Of course we need to know the full detail of the game/story to make sure.

 

[Arianrhod_The_Sept-Terrion_Eternal]

@Tony Damn. It was all part of Mercurius's plan all along. Reinhard + Marie taikyouku = Birth of a new Hadou god. Their daughter is something I would crave for.

 

[UnknownGodXXX]

So why are you using it then considering just how atrocious just that one scan alone is. >.>

I'm not using it or anything remotely similar to that. I'm asking those who are knowledgeable in translating Kanji to English with correct grammar obv. My question is did it really implied that "Infinite Muzans are not comparable to Hajun." If so then this is true since taking Taikyoku value differences into account, it's valid. However, Muzan did affect Hajun in which the Three Colors had a hard time in doing so. Does it have an explanation, any sort of context on how Muzan performed the feat.

I merely watched it because it's the only channel, it uploaded a walkthrough of Dies Irae Pantheon albeit the grammatical errors are off the chart, I enjoyed it(obviously since it's Dies Irae related video, set in a language I can understand even though the translations are wonky)

 

[Arianrhod_The_Sept-Terrion_Eternal]

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Still lacking, but this should give yall an idea instead of that Google Translate nonsense

 

[Shivansh_Garg]

isn't Amaterasu Hajun's tumor? With her removed, Hajun might be weaker than ever

 

[ALRF]

Hajun still has the whole "forever stronger than you suckers " and infinite rise of Taiji value

Problem is, we don't know much about Muzan. Hell he's stated to have the second best killing ability losing only to Hajun. Not even Reinhard outclasses him in that field. And even Ren stated that Muzan shouldn't be capable of even harming Hajun. So it's likely that Taikyoku difference is still a thing but somehow Muzan ignored it. Or maybe something else entirely. Better to wait for more info

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

My bet is that his Taikyoku rises when he's killing evil or something.

 

[Arianrhod_The_Sept-Terrion_Eternal]

Or it's probably his Commandment bypasses those things.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Commandment?

I'm pretty sure something bypass Taikyoku would mess up the thing about Taikyoku being primary in relation to all things

 

[ALRF]

Commandment is an ability in Mithra's era. It's like HxH Nen contract

For exemple, by vowing to never dodge/run away from attacks, i get immortality. Higher risk means higher reward and breaking them means death (and in Muzan's case much worse)

 

[TonySansNom]

Before people come asking and denying things, saying that it's bullshit we take out of our ass. This is something Masada wrote on his twitter not long ago. Along with other ones, like the "star" rates of the characters etc, or an other one where he talked about which groups would go with which god.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

i legit wonder what his commandements do. But it really does seem to harm things he consider evil which does fit him. And the NLF potential is real lmfao

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

If commandments can change a person's taiji value, even to the point of boosting it to "immeasurable and rising", that would imply commandments > taikyoku

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

muzan can do dis cuz he's da chad so it would eexplain a lot ovo

 

[TonySansNom]

We don't even know if they still have taikyoku values in their current pantheon states anyway.

 

[Arianrhod_The_Sept-Terrion_Eternal]

It's unknown how or if Taikyoku value will still be applied to Pantheon, but everyone gotten scaled almost equally by Naraka. Let's not forget. Muzan has three Commandments. Everyone else probably only has one Commandment, but that's just speculation cause all gods will have a commandment at the very least. It's like a "blessing" like Reinhard granting everyone immortality or Hajun's narcissism or whatever. I do like the idea of how Masada implemented the Commandment into the story. It opens up more abilities, but pay with a price if failed to abide by those rules.

 

[Extreme123dz]

Commandment, the new form of P2W for someone who want to become a OP character :v

 

[Dziga]

Commandment, the new form of P2W for someone who want to become a OP character :v

The What-If scenario where DI Pantheon is owned by EA

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

My theory is that the Commandments allow the users to use their Taiji on a higher level than a Law or something like that.

Buuut like the others said, it's better if we wait to see if Taikyoku is still a thing.

 

[Dziga]

The way I see, the Commandments might work as some form of limit-breaker via equivalent exchange.

 

[EvilMegaCookie]

Taikyoku is a thing. Hajun being the strongest hasn't changed. What people seem to constantly forget in their flounder to apparently denounce that difference in strength is no longer a thing is that the only reason Muzan could do this is due to Commandments. And he has three of them that all focus on ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.

And of course, let us not forget that we actually don't know the context yet. And Ren even asked how the hell Muzan could even cut Hajun in the first place.

 

[Antvasima]

I was told in another thread that Pantheon would introduce a character even stronger than Hajun. Is this correct? Also, is this in continuity?

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

It's someone by the name of Naraka, but I think all of us are waiting for Pantheons release for better context (though I have seen people in this thread jumping the gun about it one too many times).

As for continuity, yes it follows after Kajiri Kamui Kagura.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Well it's generally what I assume people are doing for the former but hopefully that's the case rn.

But no problem.

 

[Arianrhod_The_Sept-Terrion_Eternal]

G Yuusuke's new Rusalka artworks

 

[EvilMegaCookie]

And still no Pantheon news. If Light has any semblance of sanity, they will at least drop another one before the end of the year.

 

[Arianrhod_The_Sept-Terrion_Eternal]

They might, but most likely. Otherwise, they would already have given us another broadcast date for it. Still possible tho

 

[Arianrhod_The_Sept-Terrion_Eternal]

@ALRF New stuff for Silverio Trinity Beyond the Horizon!! Ashley and Keraunos drinking together?!! I wonder what is their relationship? This is gonna be much more interesting.

 

[TonySansNom]

It looks really cliché.

Like the MC is the cliché hero.

And his buddy who's a little rough and highty but yet will help him despite not admiting it because he's a tsundere.

At the very least, it's the feel it's giving me when I watch those images (not saying it's actually the case obv).

 

[ALRF]

Are those lolis Aya, Valentine and Nagisa? lol

And that's...very interesting. Wonder what's going on between those two. Keraunos is very similar looking to the president (Hint hint~. And it's very uffing obvious). Inb4 The "Hero" is actually the father of Ashley

I can't wait for better quality pics >w<

And PLOT!

And DISCOVERY

@Tony

Nah don't worry, they are anything but cliché.

 

[Shining_Trapezohedron]

Only if we can get someone can do an explaination blog for Silverio Series it would be nice.

 

[ALRF]

Silverio Series doesn't require a blog, like say Shinza Bansho because its cosmology isn't vast

It's singular universe with higher dimensions (Tartarus, Neptunus and Sphere Riser and ect) with it being more terminology focused (Esperantos, Planetes, Asterism, Ultimate Form of Asterism AKA Sphere and few other notes that are not particuarly worthy). Just edit the verse page with explanation about theses