Marvel Speed Revisions

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Do any of Cap's clones / alternate versions have profiles?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

No because you deleted them all lol. I'm pretty sure at least Winter Soldier, Wolverine, Black Panther and Deadpool scales.

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with if you start with the Cap characters.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Would Bucky, Wolverine, BP, Deadpool, Crossbones and Red Skull scaling to Cap work?

 

[Antvasima]

I think so, yes, and various X-Men characters (Daken, X-23, etcetera) would scale to Wolverine.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Captain America (Marvel Comics)

Wolverine (Marvel Comics)

Deadpool (Marvel Comics)

Black Panther (Marvel Comics)

All locked

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Btw is this usable?

 

[Antvasima]

I have unlocked them. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I completed all of those who scale to Captain America, Wolverine or Black Panther, except Psylocke which is locked.

 

[Antvasima]

I will unlock Psylocke.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Done. Should we continue with 5-B heavy-hitters like the Thing or Gray Hulk?

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that that should work.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Though I'm not sure which of the heavy-hitters scale to Daredevil, which of them scale to Fin Fang Foom/Rogue and which scale to Thor.

 

[Antvasima]

Only the cosmic flying powerhouses scale to Thor. I think that we can scale the rest from Fin Fang Foom though.

 

[Antvasima]

But it is best to wait for Matthew to comment.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It is sometimes hard to tell who to scale. Fing Fang Foom is Sub-Relativistic in his feat and Iron Man is full of crazy speed feats himself, but I don't think most 5-B to 4-B people that don't fly or have many feats of their own scale.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Gray Hulk and Thing are obviously way slower and weaker than Thor, but Sub-Relativistic scaling from Fin Fang Foom might be good. Green Hulk pretty much stomps Iron Man whenever he's serious, and has tagged consistently kept up with Thor in combat. World War Hulk for sure is quite OP and on par with Sentry.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Scaling Hulk to MFTL+ is VERY uncertain though. I prefer the Variable Tier.

Grey Hulk and Thing are fine to scale from their own MHS / MHS+ feats. I need to check the feats for the Fantastic Four etc.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

True, I'm fine with Green Hulk having a variable tier for speed.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I'm fine with Green Hulk's current speed rating.

Can you link Grey Hulk and Thing's MHS+ feats? @Matthew

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Btw is this usable?

 

[Huesito88]

Is this useable? (divided by 10 the result, the Namor one)

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I want MHS+ feats.

 

[Antvasima]

@Spino

I think that LordXcano's version was never properly evaluated, but if it is accepted, it would upgrade the Grey Hulk, and all characters that scale from him, to Low 4-C.

I also think that the Green Hulk has a Mach 3900+ jumping feat linked in his profile page.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

That version I think it's not to most ideal to use. I still prefer the 5-B as it is the most consistent one with other feats for similar characters, but there is Kep's 5-A recalc which seems mostly accepted.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, perhaps we could use Kepekley's version, as it has been accepted.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Where is the 5-A recalc?

 

[Antvasima]

Here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Comics:_Hulk_destroying_the_asteroid_(recalc)

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Seems usable.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I think the Thing is portrayed to be slower than Spidey. I don't think he scales to Fin Fang Foom/Rogue.

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody ask Sandman31 to help us out with this thread again?

 

[Sandman31]

I think the Thing is portrayed to be slower than Spidey. I don't think he scales to Fin Fang Foom/Rogue.

TBF many characters were shown to be less agile than Spider-man (Sometimes even Thor and the Hulk had trouble hitting him)

 

[Sandman31]

Currently Namor scales from the Thing

I'm pretty sure that Namor scales to the Fin Fang Foom/Iron Man feat. Maybe we can just change it so that the Thing scales to Namor instead (though I think Namor should be faster than the Thing, but they have fought before so I think its possible to scale the Thing to him)

If thats not good

He also defeated Sandman (Who's unknown so Ben will also be unknown)

 

[Antvasima]

I am personally fine with scaling non-flying powerhouses from Fin Fang Foom in speed, but it depends on what Matthew and Sandman think.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I don't think they should all scale to Fin Fang Foom. Many of them are slower than Spider-Man.

Sandman should have MHS+ attack speed imo.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, various MFTL+ characters have also been shown as slower than Spider-Man due to plot convenience.

Regardless, Matthew and Sandman tend to have a good sense of judgement regarding Marvel and DC Comics, so it is best to wait for them to evaluate this.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

You can politely remind them to comment here via their message walls if you wish.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

Will do so.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Hey.