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Okay. I am personally uncertain though. I never had the impression that he is as physically pwerful as Captain America.
 
Well, he should be comparable or superior to Cat who fought toe to toe with Iron Fist (Cat also knocked out Iron Fist but that was because Danny was distracted)
 
I'm not really sold on 8-A Shang Chi.

@Spin

Uncertain. I doubt he's really that strong compared to Iron Man's better suits. Probably not.
 
So what tier should Whiplash have?
 
If we don't know how to rate him, should we remove the page?
 
Okay. Who should they be scaled to instead?
 
So is Spino's current list sufficiently good to start the revisions, and if not, what needs to be changed?
 
Okay. Thank you very much for the help. The Marvel revisions are where you are most needed.
 
I suppose that scaling them to Wolverine in speed might be acceptable.
 
Okay. Should the revisions start then, or is it better to wait?
 
Okay. Do you have suggestions for how to scale them instead?
 
I think we should at least do some of the characters first. Editing all Spider-Man related characters would be a good way to start.
 
Okay. Feel free to start then.
 
I think so, yes. They should scale to Spider-Man's many Electro-dodging feats which can be linked as calcs.
 
However, I wouldn't scale Sandman, Rhino, Doctor Octopus, Lizard, Vulture, Hobgoblin or Shocker to it. They are all much slower than Spider-Man.
 
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