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This is a fairly unique proposal that admittedly, I myself haven't worked out fully, and as such I am turning this to Supporters, in order to get more informed opinions. This isn't scan-oriented because like, it isn't a one-and-done proposal, and for fairness I don't want it to be.
I'll do this step by step for you to follow, beginning with...
Essentially, Marvel has a REALLY good case for in-canon Cosmology splits, since the One Above All and the House of Ideas have been known to be able to change character tiers to a cosmological scale (Example being Nyx in Avengers: No Road Home), even able to create new cosmological beings from scratch (The One Below All), but most importantly, through basic insinuation and even basic dialogue, the One Above All is the representation of the writer, and every character in Marvel's narrative are just that, characters, subject to his whim. This implies the inconsistencies may very well be in-canon result of the One Above All's tampering towards his narrative, whether it's explicit or not.
With this, I bring you my core proposal:
Discord Vs. Debating at its finest, folks.
Cross-scaling between two cosmologies can be done if they VERY EXPLICITLY refer to structures in the prior cosmologues, or refer to the comic. TOAA giveth high cosmological definition, TOAA may as well taketh it away beyond that one singular issue so you can't stack different cosmologies on top of each other to max out results.
Also keep in mind each cosmology is subject to wiki key standards, i.e. they either have to be VERY COMMONLY REFFERED in the comics, or be from an event. No one-off writers' isolated comic, sorry.
As benefit of doubt, by the way, we'll consider that a single writer's own comics are canon to each other, it's a very basic assumption to make.
I am hopeful you will be acknowledging of the situations present in Marvel that leads us to propose this, since this is in my opinion, a fairly infallible proposal, and even results in upgrades for many characters
I'll do this step by step for you to follow, beginning with...
The Problem
Biggest issue we can see from Marvel Cosmology is 1. Relevance and 2. Definition Inconsistency, and to go through both of them:- Relevance is mostly a subjective issue, which is, when random off-hand statements and whatnot horrendously break scaling. An example of this would be the 6.6D Dark Dimension, which we don't acknowledge on the wiki yet, but absolutely wreck the Low 1-C listings, since it implies the dimensions refer to Fractal Dimensions (otherwise no dimension can have decimal values, exactly), and thus are irrelevant to scaling. This harms Dormammu's own origin as a Faultine as well, when the latter is CLEARLY a very important part of the character as opposed to the former offhand statement. At the end of the day, we WANT more apparent and referenced aspects of a character on the page, and it getting drowned by a single panel or page harms that immensely.
- Definition Inconsistency is another, as if you don't know, Marvel retcons stats of certain characters ALOT, making some far stronger (Abstracts being major ones) or far weaker (Folks like Beyonder and even The One Above All, to an extent). This isn't a "MODERN MARVEL SCUM" thing either, and has been happening since the 80s, when Galactus and the Celestials kept crawling in power since their debut. Stats alone is ignorable, afterall it's basic Marvel inconsistencies, but when entire character definitions change, then we have an issue, since at higher tier that means losing tiers, straight up
Proposed Solution
Cosmology split... with steps.Essentially, Marvel has a REALLY good case for in-canon Cosmology splits, since the One Above All and the House of Ideas have been known to be able to change character tiers to a cosmological scale (Example being Nyx in Avengers: No Road Home), even able to create new cosmological beings from scratch (The One Below All), but most importantly, through basic insinuation and even basic dialogue, the One Above All is the representation of the writer, and every character in Marvel's narrative are just that, characters, subject to his whim. This implies the inconsistencies may very well be in-canon result of the One Above All's tampering towards his narrative, whether it's explicit or not.
With this, I bring you my core proposal:
Cross-scaling between two cosmologies can be done if they VERY EXPLICITLY refer to structures in the prior cosmologues, or refer to the comic. TOAA giveth high cosmological definition, TOAA may as well taketh it away beyond that one singular issue so you can't stack different cosmologies on top of each other to max out results.
Also keep in mind each cosmology is subject to wiki key standards, i.e. they either have to be VERY COMMONLY REFFERED in the comics, or be from an event. No one-off writers' isolated comic, sorry.
As benefit of doubt, by the way, we'll consider that a single writer's own comics are canon to each other, it's a very basic assumption to make.
What this allows
Every cosmological definition, said singularly and by a long-term writer, is listable by wiki standard as it is considered a key. Be it DeMatteis, Hickman, Ewing or Cates, whatever their dialogue implies, will be represented on the files. Accomodation is essentially the primary focus of this proposal, we're able to null claims of outliers.What this doesn't allow
Cosmology stacking, which is, taking aspects of a writer's cosmology, and applying it to another, even though both can be made unaware of each other. You CAN scale cosmologies if the writers explicitly refers to structures present in another's cosmology, but acting like someone kicking Beyonder's ass present day means they're Low 1-A off of Secret Wars stuff, is absurd.Step 2 if this is accepted
I would urge the supporters to make Cosmology blogs for Marvel with the above standards so we can move closer to application.I am hopeful you will be acknowledging of the situations present in Marvel that leads us to propose this, since this is in my opinion, a fairly infallible proposal, and even results in upgrades for many characters
