Marvel Comics - 5-B Scaling Upgrade

[Kulf_Boba]

To summarize: Gilgamesh was promoted to 5-B for the statement that he lifted the weight of the Earth, which would be 5-B since mastery of the GBE is needed to perform this feat.

Here is a list made by LordTracer of the characters that scale and could scale.

Also related to this level, the Champion of the Universe has claims that he can destroy planets, thus he can rise to 5-B.

We'd have to discuss which characters scale this one.

 

[Confluctor]

Idrc overall, but Hyperion (Avengers) shouldn't be on the list. I proposed that initially because I thought his planet stopping feat was 5-B instead of 5-A.

 

[The_Impress]

Closing this, there is another versewide going rn ( M3X's 9-A Downgrades), I'll open it afterwards it's done.

Too many revisions made in a short window.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not think that closing this is a good idea, as we really need to get this done, and it is considerably more urgent than M3X's revision project..

 

[The_Impress]

…9-As are more popular and visited compared to High 6-Cs not already 3-C.

We have more pages there and their entire rating is invalidated.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, the issue is that we are in the middle of a half-finished revision for the former 4-B characters, and it needs to be completed.

 

[The_Impress]

The 4-B revision's already done though, it's just separate upgrades to High 6-Cs now :V

 

[Antvasima]

I recall seeing a few remaining 4-B pages, so I am not sure if the revisions were ever properly finished.

 

[Confluctor]

Only ones remaining are Colossus cause I don't think it was unlocked and Magus - which has some scaling issues. All the 3c stuff were applied

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. So you carefully checked to verify during the updates then?

Should I unlock the Colossus and Magus pages for you?

Also, I think that somebody updated Black Bolt to 3-C recently based on that his profile page states that he scales from Thor.

 

[Confluctor]

I am busy with work for a while, so can't help it. But it's just replacing the tiers if someone wanna do it or have time, they can do.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Would you be willing to handle it, Impress?

 

[The_Impress]

kk, I'll just do it then

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. It is very appreciated.

I will unlock the Colossus and Magus pages for you.

Tell us here when you are done.

 

[The_Impress]

Thank you for helping out. It is very appreciated.

I will unlock the Colossus and Magus pages for you.

Tell us here when you are done.

Done

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. I will lock the pages again.

 

[Antvasima]

Given that The Blue Marvel is able to split Earth's moon in half with a punch, it seems like we have further evidence for an upgrade for some High 6-C characters.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/blue-marvel-downgrade.136709/post-4998703

Common Feat: Splitting the Moon in half

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Confluctor]

This shouldn't be too hard to find a middle ground for them.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Suggestions for what we should do here would be very appreciated.

 

[Confluctor]

I am at work rn but can do later

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Antvasima]

Given that The Blue Marvel is able to split Earth's moon in half with a punch, it seems like we have further evidence for an upgrade for some High 6-C characters.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/blue-marvel-downgrade.136709/post-4998703

Common Feat: Splitting the Moon in half

vsbattles.fandom.com

I have updated this post due to a distracted head-glitch earlier.

Anyway, should we upgrade the Blue Marvel level characters to 6-A or 5-B?

 

[Confluctor]

I will make a new sandbox based on Tracer's since I can't find my old one

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. It is very appreciated.

 

[Confluctor]

Confluctor/Marvel 6-5 Rescaling

vsbattles.fandom.com

Here

 

[Eseseso]

My boi Dr Doom also scales to 5-B, right?

I mean, he matched Iron Man Marks 29 and 42.

 

[LordTracer]

he matched Iron Man Marks 29

Model 29 would only scale to Blue Marvel’s calc with a specific attack. If anything, the Model 29 should be High 6-C via scaling to Doom.

and 42

Uh, no. Doom’s shields would scale, but Doom’s AP would not, as Tony explicitly stated that Doom couldn’t get through his shields, but he couldn’t get through Doom’s either.

 

[LordTracer]

On that note, I do recall one of the Iron Man armors, it was either Extremis or Bleeding Edge, that fought Blue Marvel. I’ll try to find it.

 

[Confluctor]

Iron Man never fought Blue Marvel in the original series. He was moreso just there?

 

[Eseseso]

Could've sworn someone in a marvel comic once said that Doom was comparable to Blue Marvel but I can't remember at the moment...

 

[Eseseso]

Model 29 would only scale to Blue Marvel’s calc with a specific attack.

Uh, no. Doom’s shields would scale, but Doom’s AP would not, as Tony explicitly stated that Doom couldn’t get through his shields, but he couldn’t get through Doom’s either.

Ok

 

[Confluctor]

Could've sworn someone in a marvel comic once said that Doom was comparable to Blue Marvel but I can't remember at the moment...

Doc Doom newest solo had some statements. But again, you gotta stop with them constant attempts to upgrade Doom. Go for what's more consistent than what's the highest rating for him. So far, High 6-C is more consistent than whatever else he might get, be it 6A or 5B

 

[LordTracer]

Iron Man never fought Blue Marvel in the original series. He was moreso just there?

I swear Tony took some hits and harmed him, might be misremembering though.

 

[Confluctor]

i cant remember that, but could be worth rechecking

 

[LordTracer]

Yep, I was right, Tony harms BM (although he was kinda off-guard) and takes a hit from him (Adam: Legend of the Blue Marvel #5). Carol and Wonder Man also fight and take hits from BM in the same issue.

 

[Confluctor]

Ig that works

 

[LordTracer]

Extremis (and it’s successor, the Bleeding Edge) also has a handful of High 6-C feats like fighting Namor underwater, taking hits from a Hulkbuster and ofc matching Doom, so those could probably work as backup.

Edit: That Hulkbuster also took out Carol, so that’s actually another High 6-A feat.

 

[Eseseso]

Doc Doom newest solo had some statements. But again, you gotta stop with them constant attempts to upgrade Doom. Go for what's more consistent than what's the highest rating for him. So far, High 6-C is more consistent than whatever else he might get, be it 6A or 5B

Model 29 would only scale to Blue Marvel’s calc with a specific attack. If anything, the Model 29 should be High 6-C via scaling to Doom.

Uh, no. Doom’s shields would scale, but Doom’s AP would not, as Tony explicitly stated that Doom couldn’t get through his shields, but he couldn’t get through Doom’s either.

1. Here is the Blue Marvel = Doom statement: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/E2IwylqmX...uDIUyJQw8Aomtt-88QL9TR7Wn_uBpch6UikG-EQ=s1600

2. Mark 42's current vs battles durability justification has him taking multiple blows from Doom so if Mark 42 has 5-b even without shields then Doom scales

 

[Confluctor]

42s justifications should be changed or something. Doom shouldn't be higher than high 6c, it's his more consistent tier. And thats another scaling mess, a different can of worms which I am sure no will try to fix

 

[Antvasima]

Just a few notes:

King Hyperion fought with two other versions of Hyperion in the Exiles comic book, one of them the Squadron Supreme version, so he, Anti-Man, and the Blue Marvel should scale to that by scaling and overall context.

Also, Sersi is not very physically powerful at all compared to Gilgamesh, but is extremely versatile and dangerous due to all of her hax.

And Iron Man is not consistently supposed to be in the Blue Marvel's tier as far as I am aware, but rather be considerably weaker.