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Yes. Read the scan, he gets decked to the Georgia in Europe, by Gorgon. This isn't even comic context here, they just straight up say it.Nah, you must mean a different feat. The one I'm talking about is him getting sent from New York to Georgia.
Having an Adamantium skeleton behind your punches helps, along with Cap and Nuke straight up being hurt by his punches and physicals, no claws.And what exactly makes Wolverine superior to everyone else in AP?
He isn't "healing" there either mate, and adamantium extends to his skeleton, not his organics, if you wanna go this route. So either we assume Wolvie is healing off-page and redirecting blunt hits to his 3-C skeleton, great, the Georgia feat's invalid by same logic, or he's Cable tier for his flesh. Which will it be Lunge, please do tell me, so I can decipher the argument you're trying to make, and address whichever one you pick, saves time a decent bit.Pretty sure he only fights Nathaniel due to adamantium skeleton and claws
Is that a Crimson Dynamo?Would this Hawkeye feat be worth calculating?
Probably unreliable since it's Crimson Dynamo but just a rough calcWould this Hawkeye feat be worth calculating?
We still have 5 of these to be calculated if anyone's interestedAnyway, more feats.
Elektra destroys part of the wall with a kick, DD Vol 1 Issue 179
She then kicks a wall at Matt, he survives, same from above
Stilt Man destroys part of the building, Matt took it, DD Vol 5 Issue 611
Stilt Man feat again, same issue
Stilt Man destroys a wall, DD Vol 3 Issue 17
Breaks a wall again, DD vol 3 issue 22
Could you evaluate that @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan ?1. Stilt Man breaks a wall (need to be evaluated)
Thank you for helping out. It is very appreciated.Welp, that’s a week folks.
I’ll make the rescale sandbox and begin working on application
YesSo we are scaling DD to 9-B+ via his own feats (downscaling to that explosion that ****** him up) and scaling, right? Then stronger dudes scale above him
Why who you got?(need better justifications for that tho, I think I have some feats of stronger dudes against DD)
Iron Fist 1975 Issue 5, overpowered by Iron Man. Iron Fist scales to Daredevil, arguably stronger than him, Stark can be upscaled.Why who you got?
Feels contradictory for Iron Fist to be stronger in base physicals than DD tbh, seen more comparability than superiority between the twoIron Fist 1975 Issue 5, overpowered by Iron Man. Iron Fist scales to Daredevil, arguably stronger than him,
Model 3 isn’t listed rn, but he’s 9-A+/8-C already scaling to MandarinStark can be upscaled.
Yeah already listed 9-A based on feats already listed :vDaredevil Vol 1 Issue 360 against Absorbing Man.
It’s an artifact iirc, of old timey filemaking where folks just presumed stats for DD to be lowest possible.The reason I'm saying we need better justifications is because Marvel profiles have lots of "Comparable to X" despite both characters never meeting each other or fighting each other.
Couldn't we just make Kingpin 9-B, possibly 9-A+?how many times have they fought tho, i don't really know if one instance is evidence of much, especially when kingpin has scaling to way stronger people
That's what he's listed, yeahCouldn't we just make Kingpin 9-B, possibly 9-A+?
That is completely irrelevant, really, it doesn't change a thing. Being comparable to or superior to DD and someone beats your ass like Stark did with Danny is enough to scale. Discussing something really irrelevant here.Feels contradictory for Iron Fist to be stronger in base physicals than DD tbh, seen more comparability than superiority between the two
Then when or if we ever list Model 3 we can use this feat as a supporting feat.Model 3 isn’t listed rn, but he’s 9-A+/8-C already scaling to Mandarin
Nope. We're scaling Absorbing Man to a random ****** who fought Daredevil when we can scale AM to Daredevil directly like in the fight I linked. Matt's statements are enough for scaling AM to 9-A, he almost died fighting him and had to use one of the few haxxes he has to beat him.Yeah already listed 9-A based on feats already listed :v
Doesn't mean we need to follow this. Just link feats and references, it isn't that hard, it's way better and reliable than saying "Comparable to X" without proof. Looks like we make an effort to be the laziest possible.It’s an artifact iirc, of old timey filemaking where folks just presumed stats for DD to be lowest possible.
Fixing it is a later-date project, which isn’t really… relevant to this revision.
I mean this entire convo’s irrelevant considering we just, have direct proofing of Iron Man being superior.That is completely irrelevant, really, it doesn't change a thing. Being comparable to or superior to DD and someone beats your ass like Stark did with Danny is enough to scale. Discussing something really irrelevant here.
Why mention it? Him beating a 9-B is trivial for an 8-C rating and only serves to bloat his justificationThen when or if we ever list Model 3 we can use this feat as a supporting feat.
I mean idk why you’re acting like Man-Bull is “some random ******”, that alone is sufficient, if you want to link the DD feat sure, idrc for more proofing.Nope. We're scaling Absorbing Man to a random ****** who fought Daredevil when we can scale AM to Daredevil directly like in the fight I linked. Matt's statements are enough for scaling AM to 9-A, he almost died fighting him and had to use one of the few haxxes he has to beat him.
Nobody claimed otherwise, an explanation of past indexing isn’t me conceding to themDoesn't mean we need to follow this.
I was already doing this. Keeping the thread open for this isn’t exactly needed.Just link feats and references, it isn't that hard, it's way better and reliable than saying "Comparable to X" without proof.
Kind of rude to say tbh, factor is less so being the laziest possible, it is to me being efficient and not wasting people’s time. It takes a fraction of a second to make the new thread, given title it’ll be focused and people are more likely to join new threads than derailed old ones.Looks like we make an effort to be the laziest possible.
Girl, listen, you put Iron Man on that list, and I remembered a fight between Iron Man and Iron Fist where Tony dominated him. Logical outcome: "Hey look at this fight it can be used for scaling". It's not irrelevant, it's just a very, very specific version of Tony, and I do have some feats for him.I mean this entire convo’s irrelevant considering we just, have direct proofing of Iron Man being superior.
I don’t care about Iron Man in this para anyways, I just think the claim “Iron Fist is superior” is wrong, it’s relevant to address in the thread since if he was notably stronger, he’d be 9-A.
Same as above.Why mention it? Him beating a 9-B is trivial for an 8-C rating and only serves to bloat his justification
Because you can directly scale AM to DD without needing someone who never appeared again on a Daredevil comic. AM almost killed Daredevil, it's way better than scaling to someone who is a "Daredevil foe" with no context on what level of foe he was to him.I mean idk why you’re acting like Man-Bull is “some random ******”, that alone is sufficient, if you want to link the DD feat sure, idrc for more proofing.
Fair.Nobody claimed otherwise, an explanation of past indexing isn’t me conceding to them
Not you specifically girl, we, wiki or Marvel dudes, whatever. More like that old practice you were saying, definition of lazy, literally. Instead of reaching a conclusion of who has the lowest physicals and scaling everyone above him, they could've read the comics and in worst case scenario they gather scans from RTs and expand the justification.Kind of rude to say tbh, factor is less so being the laziest possible, it is to me being efficient and not wasting people’s time. It takes a fraction of a second to make the new thread, given title it’ll be focused and people are more likely to join new threads than derailed old ones.
Of course I just don’t think a thread or discussion is needed period considering sourced justifications if blatant should just be added regardless.