Mario VS Twilight (Reboot)

[AquaWaifu]

Check the calcs. Mario w/o powerups is inches away from 4-B. Twilight Sparkle is upscaled from 4-Cs

hold on, if hats true then why is he allowed use of powerups since that would mean with them he escalates to 4B, seems pretty unfair.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Because they don't boost him 2x?

 

[AquaWaifu]

if without powrups he's almost 4-B then what is he with them?

 

[Jared1111]

Mario doesent more more experience or more hax
He just has more brute force

Sorry meant to say more hax resistance when i said advantages, though some of Twilights overall hax Mario doesn't have resistance too.

However, how does Twilight have more experience or how does Mario have less experience?

 

[AquaWaifu]

honestly the experience thing really kinda vague since Mario is so loose canon its kinda...weird.

 

[Js250476]

I mean Twilight is a bit weird to but the canon is lot more straight forward at least

 

[Theglassman12]

Twilight Sparkle should take this for the reasons stated above.

 

[Noahkaismith]

Mario has way more experience, nobody's gonna deny that. Also, I think you guys are really ignoring some of the stuff Mario has. Namely possesion, transmutation, intangibility, and time manipulation. Also, couldn't Mario just control Twilight with his animal manipulation? Also, of course Mario gets Cappy. Under standard equipment, it says, various items. Is Cappy an item? Yes he is. If you're not gonna let Mario use Cappy, then why do we let him use F.L.U.D.D.? Why do Pokémon Trainers get to use their Pokémon? Why do we let Rick use Mr. Meeseeks? Why do we let Terrarian use his pets?

 

[AquaWaifu]

Mario has way more experience, nobody's gonna deny that. Also, I think you guys are really ignoring some of the stuff Mario has. Namely possesion, transmutation, intangibility, and time manipulation. Also, couldn't Mario just control Twilight with his animal manipulation? Also, of course Mario gets Cappy. Under standard equipment, it says, various items. Is Cappy an item? Yes he is. If you're not gonna let Mario use Cappy, then why do we let him use F.L.U.D.D.? Why do Pokémon Trainers get to use their Pokémon? Why do we let Rick use Mr. Meeseeks? Why do we let Terrarian use his pets?

How dare you put Twilight on the same level as animal for Mario to manipulate.

and he does not have time manipulation, and possession if I believe has certain stipulations in Odyssesy, given what I remember from interview videos.


transmutation is worthless against Twilight here.


and if I remember from old videos Cappy seemed to merely be possessing Mario's old hat and giving Mario his own ability, he himself is NOT an item.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Doesent this have enough votes to be added as inconclusive?

 

[Desiromaster]

I really can't decide myself. I've been intentonally avoiding the reboot thread as it's just as a mess as the previous in my eyes.

 

[AquaWaifu]

bump

 

[Noahkaismith]

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Woah, calm down. I'm just asking a question, since Twilight is an animal.

He doesn have time manip, it says right on his profile. His possession "limits" are mainly just gameplay mechanics, and even taking that into acount, the only limit he has is that he can't possess anything with a hat.

Why is is transmutation useless? She doesn't resist it. If anything, it should be useless on Mario, as at least he has resistance to it.

Item: an individual article or unit, especially one that is part of a list, collection, or set. Cappy qualifies for all of those. Don't see why he's not an item. Besides, what makes Cappy any different than F.L.U.D.D.? Furthermore, Mario's profile lists possession as one of his abilities. How is he supposed to possess someone without Cappy?

 

[AquaWaifu]

If Cappy is allowed then I dont see why the Armor of Frienship isnt on her standard equipment.

 

[AquaWaifu]

but what even consitutes an animal? I mean Twilight herself wouldnt consider herself since in her world animals are like bears and deer and manticores, they dont live in a society.

what just becuase shes a horse and Mario is...humanish?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Well, if Cappy is allowed, then that's another thing Mario could use to one-shot, since Twily has no resistance against being possessed.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Limited as crap range and she'll likely block with a barrier,

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

And she also seems to have no resistance to Mind Manipulation, so Animal Manipulation might work.

 

[AquaWaifu]

neither does Mario, and unless Im mistaken this is bloolusted, speed is equalized, and she has range advantage and go do so with a thought.

Wait how does his animal manip work again?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I don't know, ask whoever added that on his page.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Mario also has Transmutation and Time Manipulation, which are another things she has no defence against, so, yeah, there are a lot of things Mario can do here.

 

[AquaWaifu]

How does have those two?


Im not going to assume its efffective without some details,


theres nothing on his page stating to what extent Mario can use them

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Time stop: Battle cards. Transmutation: Gold flower and battle cards as well.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Alrigh thank you.


hmm would having to search through a deck of cards give Twilight enouggh time to lolnope via tk them away or something?


gold flower...could she fly up out of range from his gold fireballs?

 

[Pikachu942]

I still think due to Twilight's range advantage she'll win this with speed equalized and bloodlusted.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Mario for cal's reason

 

[AquaWaifu]

also considering Mario's max range is still only tens of mters, those cards dont really mean shit.

I assume the battle cards range fit into mario's best range

 

[AquaWaifu]

Just added Bluetrekking


mario is at 6

Twilight is at 5

and Inconclusive is at 3

PICK A SIDE FENCE SITTERS! >:U

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

Battle cards doesn't effect Mario range plus those cards give him a great advantage like; Barriers, negate damage, time, etc. And plus Mario has happy via possession. My vote goes to Mario

 

[AquaWaifu]

I find it really weird to include Paper Mario stuff since it is literally a different Mario as shown in Paper Jam.

you're basically asking anyone to keep track of two seperate profiles with massive differences in stats and P&A.

 

[NotAMarioFan(lol)]

We've been through that along time ago. And it's the same Mario check Mario's page on bottom

 

[AquaWaifu]

Im unsure to even count anything from Paper Mario games, it seems unfair.especially since Mario has literally been put in a vs battle WITH paper Mario.


cause if you people arguing in favor of him having paper mario, badges and battle cards Id haveto ALSO include the Star Rod, which would make this a ******** stomp.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Well, technically, Paper Mario is described as "Mario as he appears in the Paper Mario series", so, I guess it is the same character? But in the Paper Mario series, Mario's stats and abilities changed so radically that the only way to keep the page organized was with a separate page.

 

[Js250476]

Nope I'm pretty sure Paper Jam makes it clear there not the same character

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Then why the hell does PM's page says it is only separate due to organization purposes and radically different stats?

 

[AquaWaifu]

We've been through that along time ago. And it's the same Mario check Mario's page on bottom

if its the same character why is there a vs thread between them?

 

[Js250476]

Don't ask me I ain't the one who made it

 

[AquaWaifu]

Then why the hell does PM's page says it is only separate due to organization purposes and radically different stats?

do stats include P&A? cause PM has an assload of abilities that never appear on mario in anything outside of Paper Mario

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah no, Mario and Paper Mario are considered two totally different things

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

I don't know, here's the page, read it: Paper Mario