Mario vs Chara (Remake) [Grace]

[AStrangeverse]

Funny how my first ever versus thread is a remake of someone else's, but after seeing the bogus reasoning from this thread, I had to remake it.
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Battle Information:
Location - Valley of the End (Naruto)

Method of Victory - Death/Incap

- Mario is in his Pure Hearts key, without optional equipment.

- Chara is in their Demon key, AE restricted.

Both characters are In-Character, and their Speed is equalized.
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Mario: 1 (Ego)

Chara: 1 (omegabronic)

Incon: 9 (TheKingStrategist13, SuperStar, Board3659, TauanVictor, ZespeonGalaxy, TheKillerYT, Soupywolf5, Dragonite007, Da3ggman)

 

[Board3659]

So mario would have to Incap her otherwise she just SAVE and RELOAD

 

[AStrangeverse]

So mario would have to Incap her otherwise she just SAVE and RELOAD

he has several ways to incap, but this match most likely ends in an incon after what was argued in the previous thread

 

[Ego]

Mario time stops her and calls it a day

 

[AStrangeverse]

Mario time stops her and calls it a day

he's only got time stop in his optional equipment tab, we're using standard equipment

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Mario time stops her and calls it a day

Is that in character? Also how does he do that?

 

[Dragonite007]

Mario time stops her and calls it a day

Mario just can time stop with optional equipment, which he don't have

 

[AStrangeverse]

Is that in character? Also how does he do that?

he's only got time stop with Optional Equipment, his Standard stuff ain't got it

 

[Dragonite007]

I told to let the thread die

 

[AStrangeverse]

can't let it slide, shit was added to their profiles for some bad reasoning

 

[omegabronic]

voting chara here, mario "incap" options are things that chara can just load from, eventually they will learn his pattern and fight style and eventually be able to kill him by hitting him enough while also dodging thanks to the load/save

 

[AStrangeverse]

voting chara here, mario "incap" options are things that chara can just load from, eventually they will learn his pattern and fight style and eventually be able to kill him by hitting him enough while also dodging thanks to the load/save

Chara is no where near as skilled or experienced as Mario is in combat, and that same argument can easily be used for him

not to mention Mario can also remember past LOADS/SAVES thanks to his own Acausality, and with Limitless stamina, this battle is just an incon

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

Inconclusive, as per the reasoning in the previous thread. Mario has methods to Incap Chara, which Chara would load from. I don't see Mario Budging, either.

 

[AStrangeverse]

counted

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

this should be an incon lol.

 

[Ego]

Mario via superior combat and time stop fra

 

[AStrangeverse]

Mario via superior combat and time stop fra

Mario doesn't have time stop in his Base and Standard Equipment tabs, only his Optional Equipment

plus, Chara can just LOAD/SAVE repeatedly even when Mario kills/incaps them

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Inconclusive, as per the reasoning in the previous thread. Mario has methods to Incap Chara, which Chara would load from. I don't see Mario Budging, either.

Mario with his Transmutation and EE:

 

[TUHTPeaSkull12]

I'm pretty sure that even with time stop this would still be incon...

because really nothing that mario has to incapacitate lasts long enough to hold chara back, or that can't be simply bypassed by the load and save.

 

[AStrangeverse]

I'm pretty sure that even with time stop this would still be incon...

because really nothing that mario has to incapacitate lasts long enough to hold chara back, or that can't be simply bypassed by the load and save.

pretty much

 

[Ego]

Oh yeah here's the thing

If Mario can use the power stats to use EE then how can Chara come back from that?

 

[omegabronic]

Chara is no where near as skilled or experienced as Mario is in combat, and that same argument can easily be used for him

not to mention Mario can also remember past LOADS/SAVES thanks to his own Acausality, and with Limitless stamina, this battle is just an incon

so? chara would still be able to load back and eventually adapt to mario's moves, they have infinite tries here, mario can't put chara down for good, while chara can eventually hit mario enough to kill him, mario can kill chara infinite times and it doesn't matter, chara just needs to kill him once and they win

 

[omegabronic]

Oh yeah here's the thing

If Mario can use the power stats to use EE then how can Chara come back from that?

does the erasure erases the soul? also i am pretty sure that he doesn't have that here

 

[Dragonite007]

How work his EE?

 

[Ego]

so? chara would still be able to load back and eventually adapt to mario's moves, they have infinite tries here, mario can't put chara down for good, while chara can eventually hit mario enough to kill him, mario can kill chara infinite times and it doesn't matter, chara just needs to kill him once and they win

Mario is very hard to kill himself
Mario has resurrection and wish granting

 

[AStrangeverse]

so? chara would still be able to load back and eventually adapt to mario's moves, they have infinite tries here, mario can't put chara down for good, while chara can eventually hit mario enough to kill him, mario can kill chara infinite times and it doesn't matter, chara just needs to kill him once and they win

Tf you mean so? Did you not thoroughly read what I said?

Chara isn't going to be adapting to Mario's moves as much as Mario will adapt to theirs, you're comparing an expert in combat to a child that just swings with a knife

and again, Ice Flowers and Invincibility power-ups make it so Chara feasibly can't do anything

 

[AStrangeverse]

Oh yeah here's the thing

If Mario can use the power stats to use EE then how can Chara come back from that?

pretty sure the Pure Hearts and Power Stars don't share abilities, they're separate items

 

[Ego]

pretty sure the Pure Hearts and Power Stars don't share abilities, they're separate items

What?

 

[omegabronic]

Mario is very hard to kill himself
Mario has resurrection

his is limited in number, chara's is not

and wish granting

he doesn't have that here, he only has standard equipment

 

[Ego]

If he has all of his equipments Mario would f*ck Chara up badly but I guess people like incon matches for some reason

 

[omegabronic]

Tf you mean so? Did you not thoroughly read what I said?

Chara isn't going to be adapting to Mario's moves as much as Mario will adapt to theirs, you're comparing an expert in combat to a child that just swings with a knife

and again, Ice Flowers and Invincibility power-ups make it so Chara feasibly can't do anything

chara can just wear him down, they can try infinitely, mario can not, mario has no way to incap because chara can just eventually kill him when his revival options ends, also chara could become inpatient and just nuke the timeline, can mario survive that?

 

[omegabronic]

If he has all of his equipments Mario would f*ck Chara up badly but I guess people like incon matches for some reason

no, they like fair matches, also pretty sure it is incon if mario has his equipment

 

[Ego]

no, they like fair matches, also pretty sure it is incon if mario has his equipment

It wouldn't be incon if Mario can resurrect and then eventually make a wish that Chara can no longer save and load and would beat Chara up until he/she dies

 

[SuperStar]

Going with incon

 

[Board3659]

incon
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also tell me how a small child will adapt to someone who is fighting for who knows how long

 

[AStrangeverse]

chara can just wear him down, they can try infinitely, mario can not,

Again, Chara can't wear Mario down, due to Mario having Limitless stamina in this key

mario has no way to incap because chara can just eventually kill him when his revival options ends,

that's cool and all, but that doesn't disprove Mario freezing Chara repeatedly, or just one-tapping them with any of his Invincibility power-ups

also chara could become inpatient and just nuke the timeline, can mario survive that?

wat, obviously

they're both 2-B in AP and Durability, nuking the timeline isn't going to do much for them

 

[AStrangeverse]

Going with incon

counted

 

[AStrangeverse]

incon
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also tell me how a small child will adapt to someone who is fighting for who knows how long

counted

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Incon fra

 

[omegabronic]

Again, Chara can't wear Mario down, due to Mario having Limitless stamina in this key

wear him down as, finding an opening to attack him

that's cool and all, but that doesn't disprove Mario freezing Chara repeatedly

via projectiles that chara can just dodge, chara has seem far more complex damaku in undertale, plus if they hit mario he loses the power up

, or just one-tapping them with any of his Invincibility power-ups

you mean the ones that are limited in quantity?

wat, obviously

they're both 2-B in AP and Durability, nuking the timeline isn't going to do much for them

forget it then