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Not in Odyssey.All planets in Mario are kinda small
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Not in Odyssey.All planets in Mario are kinda small
I can actually see this, as I believe much, if not outright most of fiction is more representative than literal. The issue is, aside from wiki standards, the possibility of the planet's small sizes being literal is not small considering Mario's universe and how it works. Unless there is some more evidence I am not aware of, of course!Personally I don't like those size arguments because the intent is clearly for them to be planets and stars and galaxies but they chose to depict them in a manner befitting Mario rather than go anime with it like Asura.
But that's me. I know this wiki sees it differently
The issue I found with tier 8 is that any rating has several viable feats above it. I'd feel weird capping the franchise at 8-A when I have two or three good Low 7-C calcs, and then a couple of 7-C ones, and so on. The verse has a very consistent "ladder" of calcs all the way to 7-B, at which point I admit that from 7-B to 6-C, it's quite the jump, so that bit is partially more questionable. But I would like the rating to be 7-B, at minimum. Regardless I personally would like to keep the "Mario should be lower than 6-C" conversation in the future- I have no personal interest in downgrading them further, but if others do, I would prefer for that to wait given that it's still in line with my current argument, and would be a continuation for it. As for multiple ratings, I would rather not, given that these ratings are going to applied to what, 60+ profiles? If we gotta we gotta, but I would prefer not.On the issue at hand and the discussion held by Armor, I am in agreement with a downgrade, although I am of opinion that, with the evidence provided and discussion had here, particularly with Smashor's and Armor's arguments, that tier 8 is the most consistent one, probably around the 8-A range from eyeballing, but I also like DaReaperMan's suggestion of making a tier consisting of "at least X value, likely Y value, possibly Z value", or something like that. It feels apt for the kind of series that Mario is. I believe further threads will be necessary to tackle the issues pointed out earlier about a possible Mario Galaxy key and DDM's statements. Personally, I believe that at least tier 4, if not 3 for a Mario Galaxy and Grand Star-scaling tier are feasible.
(I genuinely don't know what you're voting here)I agree with Chomper's disagreement
Fair, took a glance at the Goomba's and they're MFTL+, also iirc some people argued for galaxy level Goombas. Which is... weird in of itself.No, not fodder enemies. Everyone in the main cast, as well as bosses, yeah. But not things like Goombas.
i... didn't know that what the hellFair, took a glance at the Goomba's and they're MFTL+
Yeah I made a CRT almost a year ago bumping fodder to MFTL+i... didn't know that what the hell
This is what the proposal has and what the votes currently agree to. I don't see much benefit in dragging it out given we are already at 5 pagesThe proposed Attack Potency tier for Mario characters that currently scale to 3-C (as well as Wario/DK/Paper Mario characters) is 6-C, with characters amplified by power-ups such as Giant Bowser reaching up to Low 6-B.
Why tho??? it won't change the outcome of this thread and the derailing will continue even moreI would still like to keep it open for one more day at least though.
Apologies, I didn't see it. Er, relative scaling doesn't change so I don't think characters like Ashley are affected by this thread.I never got my answer for where WarioWare stands but that's for another thread, I suppose.
That's fair.Apologies, I didn't see it. Er, relative scaling doesn't change so I don't think characters like Ashley are affected by this thread.
Just put me on the Disagree vote count for both AP and the unsplitting.(I genuinely don't know what you're voting here)
Why would you downgrade fricking ItRtG? Disagree.
I agree with that. Many verses could be lowered way too much and make way more sense. I do agree with people saying other verses need to be toned down, but not as a reaction but that's because that's the right thing to do.This is exactly the direction the wiki should be going in. All of the what-about arguments demonstrate this beautifully: We have tons of profiles that are tiered based on extreme outlier feats with no regard to the limitations and abilities of the characters being indexed. It's simply a contest between fandoms to see who can get their character the highest. The end result is that many of our profiles would be unrecognizable to any fan of the series, which is a failure on our part, not a success.
That's regrettably the problem and can be seen with vs battles some times. Crt are way too vital for that.Given this approach literally every verse would be wanked to high heaven by the supporters drumming up a big enough FRA train.
In agreement. The tier absolutely should be changed, and the laddering of upscaling is consistent enough that 6-C or tier 7 are both very much feasible.Should I consider you to Agree, or be Neutral?
For what it's worth, someone indeed made a case for 3-C Goombas here.Fair, took a glance at the Goomba's and they're MFTL+, also iirc some people argued for galaxy level Goombas. Which is... weird in of itself.
Speaking to my soul.Read the OP, blog, and rolled through the comments, I agree with the thread. There are too many normalized excuses on how to view things that rely on failing to see how what happens in 1 verse isn't the same as what happens in another verse due to a number of factors.
I agree to the downgrade