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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread
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EldemadeDityjon
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Can you explain Little bit further.
Also i need some help what if a character can cut thru time with sheer speed does that make him or her Immeasurable speed?
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Cut through time is too vague. Are cutting through time to go back/forward in time to prevent something or cut their opponent?
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In specific case, order and orded is duality. Like destruction and creation. But in general case they is onesess/nonduality, every specific order is "order" by default, they one in concept of order that govern the world
Like tree, there apple tree, banana tree, etc. But every tree is "tree"
In concept there are "subordinate" and "superordinate". I think that explanation will easy to understand
I think yes, because if infinite speed mean move with 0 time, immeasurable speed is move without bound by time it self, so he/she can move through past or future freely
EldemadeDityjon
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Ok
. 「私の剣は、最速の刃。時をも斬り裂く、バルツァロンド流狩猟剣しゅりょうけん」
しん、と静寂がその場を覆いつくし、まさに時が止まったかのように錯覚した。
なにもかもが静止した世界で、バルツァロンドだけが動いている。
否、その男の剣があまりにも速すぎるのだ。
"My sword is the fastest blade. The Balzarondo style hunting sword that cuts through time."
A silence covered the place, giving the illusion that time had stopped.
In a world where everything was stationary, only Balzarondo was moving.
No, the man's sword was far too fast.
しん、と静寂がその場を覆いつくし、まさに時が止まったかのように錯覚した。
なにもかもが静止した世界で、バルツァロンドだけが動いている。
否、その男の剣があまりにも速すぎるのだ。
"My sword is the fastest blade. The Balzarondo style hunting sword that cuts through time."
A silence covered the place, giving the illusion that time had stopped.
In a world where everything was stationary, only Balzarondo was moving.
No, the man's sword was far too fast.
People are ignoring this feat as Hyperbole statement or something but whoever Actuality read Disaster world edition and magic bullet world can tell every hunting architect has a unique sword with unique ability. I mean 5 chalices or something what you call them.
Also it's consistency if you consider people reacting to magic bullet and Eges spear getting caught in deeper layers. I believe atleast infinite combat speed should be given to top tier character whovever relatives to Balzarondo
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Well, the reason why this is added to Anos' profile is to have a guide or reference, it may not be official but it is the closest to how Anos behaves in the novel and there is no problem to use it in vsthreads, also if anyone knows of any other ability that is not in that list, you can tell me and discuss here.
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World can contain infinite possibilities of future
「未来はなに一つ決まってはいません。ナフタの愛とともにそこには無限の可能性が広がり、人々は希望を胸に、よりよい未来をつかみとる。竜騎士団よ、恐れることはありません」
"There is no single future. With Nafta's love, there are infinite possibilities, and people have hope in their hearts and seize a better future. Dragon Knights, don't be afraid. "
"There is no single future. With Nafta's love, there are infinite possibilities, and people have hope in their hearts and seize a better future. Dragon Knights, don't be afraid. "
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Not sure what speed it is, but i think that could be infinite speedOk
「私の剣は、最速の刃。時をも斬り裂く、バルツァロンド流狩猟剣しゅりょうけん」
しん、と静寂がその場を覆いつくし、まさに時が止まったかのように錯覚した。
なにもかもが静止した世界で、バルツァロンドだけが動いている。
否、その男の剣があまりにも速すぎるのだ。
"My sword is the fastest blade. The Balzarondo style hunting sword that cuts through time."
A silence covered the place, giving the illusion that time had stopped.
In a world where everything was stationary, only Balzarondo was moving.
No, the man's sword was far too fast.
People are ignoring this feat as Hyperbole statement or something but whoever Actuality read Disaster world edition and magic bullet world can tell every hunting architect has a unique sword with unique ability. I mean 5 chalices or something what you call them.
Also it's consistency if you consider people reacting to magic bullet and Eges spear getting caught in deeper layers. I believe atleast infinite combat speed should be given to top tier character whovever relatives to Balzarondo
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I think more like, the <kandaquisorte> future world crystal can contain it. And the crystal is only a microcosm of the world, because it a santuary
EldemadeDityjon
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Yeah they should atleast have infinite speed. Pretty much Yzark should get immeasurable speed. I asked in multiple speed Q&A thread they told me immeasurable speed character getting blitzed means other characters also has immeasurable speed it's not necessary to be said multiple times. Yzark pretty much little faster than Anos and he was even able to kill him.
I think anyone who scales above nafta should get uni+ rating.
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Cutting through time here is too specific to give it only infinite speed. If not immeasurable then its inaccessible, faster than infinite but slower than immeasurable.
Inaccessible is better as it says time is stopped but you can try to go for immeasurable as it seems similar to shin's blade less sword.
EldemadeDityjon
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@Fixxed @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless i have a doubt
Lets say there is 4D space which has infinite number of universes. So a Character can destroy the infinite number of universes (space time continuum)(4D structure) along with 4D space does that make the character AP 5D for destroying one higher dimensional space + Infinite number of 4D spaces ?
Lets say there is 4D space which has infinite number of universes. So a Character can destroy the infinite number of universes (space time continuum)(4D structure) along with 4D space does that make the character AP 5D for destroying one higher dimensional space + Infinite number of 4D spaces ?
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Context is needed to prove that space is 5D as 4D structures can still hold 4D objects
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If we talk about brane cosmology, than yea is 5D (if the universes being subspace in that space)
EldemadeDityjon
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I don't think it's necessary as timeline is 4D structure and 1 higher dimensional space would make it 5D but not sure.
Well gotta think about this.
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So what makes anos the strongest 2-A now?
Transduality, type 5 acausality, NEP type 2 and layered concept hax are the most broken shit he has. What else?
I am definitely not asking so i can steal his hax and paste it to the mc of my own web novel
Transduality, type 5 acausality, NEP type 2 and layered concept hax are the most broken shit he has. What else?
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High Godly regeneration, HG regen neg and AE
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immeasurable speed as well.
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Yeah pretty much.
The only way to beat Anos is being a Low 1-C character or above, or to have an absurdly powerful Smurf technique such as Layered regen neg (High Godly) or Sealing.
EldemadeDityjon
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Probably his Regeneration negation is infinite layered knowing grahan Regeneration stated infinite destruction needed to neg it. I mean Graham was turned into Nothingness on layered basis but wiki probably gonna treat it as hyperbole.
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EldemadeDityjon
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They hopefully don't treat it as that. Its said he becomes a deeper nothingness that's impossible to affect each time his previous nothingness was destroyed and venuzdonor just needs to destroy reason each time to overcome it.
Wiki would probably say its NLF and ask for proof that the same level of negation can apply to other abilities as well
EldemadeDityjon
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Well can't be helped. I am currently checking the feats for infinite speed. Don't know how much scans i need to translate.
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Doubt it will treated as hyperbolic... Graham's many times said that the more he gets destroyed, the more he get closer to his true nature/the more nothingness and impossible to affect he became. Graham's nothingness can be further reduced to nothingness as shown in many times when venuzdonoa was destroying him and when Anos' was destroying him inside his source, he'll taste an infinite destruction for eternity.
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Anos said something along the lines of " nothing is eternal so grahams nothingness would eventually reach it end but if his nothingness is truly eternal then he would continue to be destroyed in Anos source for eternity."
This is possibly infinite layers of NEP 2&3 for graham and possibly infinite layers of negation for Anos and venuzdonor. This would apply to all other of venuzdonor's abilities as well be it HGR, HGR negation, resistances, CM& law manipulation as it's all by destroying reason.
This is why I asked that question once, whether you need to show resistance negation for every kind of resistance or you gain the same amount Of layered negation for every kind of reaistance after you've shown it on one ability.
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So no more 1-A stuff for TD so we can argue for Type 3 TD
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Great, so we'll be able to argue for the new type 2. Hopefully irrelevant speed being exclusively for 1-A's gets nuked too
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Haven't you read? Irrelevant is about to get nuked already
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Yeah, I saw it. Hopefully it actually gets revised as dihiddoatem is textbook irrelevant not immeasurable
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Do you know how to add yourself to a list of verse supporters?
EldemadeDityjon
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Irrelevant tier itself getting nuked *
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Nooo!!!!!
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How
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Just edit the verse you want to add yourself as supporter with your username
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Why is Irrelevant speed getting nuked anyways?
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Irrelevant is still a rank above immeasurable. I remember the Anos vs Archie sonic match. One of the reasons he lost is because of only baseline immeasurable speed
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I have no idea actually, they probably found some problems with it
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Why is irrelevant speed getting nuked huh?
