Making BB, and Gilgamesh More OP

[Diinou_HotHead]

Maybe, undo the unaccepted edits?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

There are so many threads it's hard to keep track. What are we going to do about this one?

Since it's a single ability. Might be best to contact monarch on his message wall

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Basically this is ongoing because of: whether Gilgamesh has Ten Crowns or not, wording for his Statistical amplification and Meltlilith's conceptual manipulation?

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Basically this is ongoing because of: whether Gilgamesh has Ten Crowns or not, wording for his Statistical amplification and Meltlilith's conceptual manipulation?

He still has it on his profile, but it changed to scaling it to the other EoG servants, and meltliths conceptual manipulation

 

[John985]

He still has it on his profile, but it changed to scaling it to the other EoG servants, and meltliths conceptual manipulation

Her concept manip is not on her profile.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Oh I'm.talking about Gilgameshes ten crowns EX ability

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

He has Power null, but not outright Subjective Reality (negation) since Ramesses removed it. Now, based on the interpretation I wrote, what do people think? Go with Ramesses' interpretation or add Ten Crowns again?

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

After reading the scan around 6-7 times, I think it goes like, Ten Crowns is hidden in all humans, and they're going to unleash it for Gil.

 

[Paul_Frank]

I'm pretty sure the subjective reality should be readded

Melt's concept manip should definitely be added back since this seems pretty objectively like concept manip

"Meltlilith's Noble Phantasm, derived from the Hindu goddess Saraswati and the Japanese Buddhist goddess Benzaiten, who preside over knowledge and the arts. With their authority, Meltilith is able to control anything "that flows", whether it be natural phenomena like wind and water, or man-made concepts like speech, prose, and music. This takes the form of the massive vortexes that Meltlilith creates as she battles as well as the "honey" she secretes for her Melt Virus, she is able to wash away her foes' body, common sense, morals, mind, society, and civilization to such an extent that it would be classified as an Anti-World Noble Phantasm rather than Meltlilith's preferred use of it as a targeted attack."

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

That one should start least ne readded with subject reality negation. I'll message monarch about it when I'm off work

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

So, it should have a note about it being CCC only, right?

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Melt's NP indeed sounds like type 3 concept manip.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Bumping since we still have to resolve the issue arround Ten Crowns. Do we give it to Gilgamesh or not?

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

I think it should, but put a note about it being Mooncell only if it doesn't scale to Living Gil.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Agreed. And other servants don't get it until someone posts quotes for them.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Also, whoever fought Mooncell buff Gil should also have resistance to Subjective Reality as well.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Well, no one actually fought him except BB and Kiara. Some stood against him, which he disposed of before buffing himself to face BB, but those fight were more like:

Gilgamesh: You are about to die.

Opponent: Yeah, I know.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Wait, would this really need approval from staff though? I mean, Ten Crown's removal from Gil Profile's never approved in the first place.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

We don't need it really, but I would want more people to see what Ramesses wrote and what I replied and then decide. A show of good will and democracy if nothing else.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Bump

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

What I see that need to be added, for now:

Melt's Conceptual

Gil's Ten Crowns & Resist for whoever fought him when amped

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Bump, and who should I message to get approval?

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Add Subjective Reality (Negation) to Gilgamesh and resistance to it to Kiara because she's the only one who fights him at full power besides BB and BB already has resistance to it.

And conceptual manipulation can be added for Meltlilith. I don't think further approval is need as this has been discussed properly and people agreed. No one is willing to argue against it.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Okay, then I'm applying the changes, then.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Aaaand it's done.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Good job. This can be closed and now we can move on to speed discussion for them.