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That is very unspecific lmfaoI'm voting for the baddie FRA
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That is very unspecific lmfaoI'm voting for the baddie FRA
That's the point lolThat is very unspecific lmfao
So Toji = Maki > Highly Trained Fighters
What makes those highly trained fighters any good in comparison to Mira? Also, you realize Mira would dance around the typical "highly trained" person in her own verse, right?
You clearly ignored that ^ and the fact that I never stated Maki is comparable to Mira.I’m not even going to into verbose detail about Maki’s skill.
Such as?Mira has fought people with better analytical prediction.
Probably the fact that Mira won’t assume she’s crazy enough to tank a hit.What makes her so unpredictable that you think that'd happen?
What you think is not an argument. But since we are saying what we think I’ll play the game too.Not going to lie this isn't a very good look for Maki.
This skill scaling doesn't do any favours for Maki, she was already faster and stronger than every member of the Kukuru unit and you need to actually show feats as to what the skill of the people she scales above actually entails, even fighters with thousands of years of experience in a story don't necessarily outskill just based on that if the person they're up against was way more ridiculous skill feats.Toji = Maki > Upper Echleon fighters (Naoya, Jinichi, Ogi, etc) > early series Maki > Kurukuru unit of highly trained martial artists.
For Maki to be able to land hits on Mira she would need to be comparable. Otherwise Mira would more than likely just dodge everything due her experience against far more skilled opponents.You clearly ignored that ^ and the fact that I never stated Maki is comparable to Mira.
I read your argument and responded to the points you made in order.Read my arguments entirely and properly before responding in bits and pieces.
You can't just make a greater than symbol skill chain and say that "proves" she's comparable enough to land hits on Mira lol.Toji = Maki > Upper Echleon fighters (Naoya, Jinichi, Ogi, etc) > early series Maki > Kurukuru unit of highly trained martial artists.
This proves Maki is a extremely competent fighter in general. Now she can use her supernatural and superhuman abilities to compensate for the remaining gap in skill to where she’s able to land 1-2 strikes on Mira to win.
Such as?
That wasn't part of the argument I was just stating that in my opinion your "arguments" for Maki are not a good look for her. You still haven't managed to prove any of your claims.What you think is not an argument. But since we are saying what we think I’ll play the game too.
Why are you lying? The first part of your post literally says:
The rest of your points are just you saying "Maki has this, Maki has that, Maki is exceptionally skilled" which you only support by bringing up the Zen'in massacre.
You, yourself do not even know what you are saying somehow.
1. Irregardless, it's not a feat of skill to punch someone in the face really hard. I don't understand where you get the idea of this being the case, irregardless of whether or not Naoya's speed contributed to the damage he took.
2. Naoya also had to hit Maki SEVERAL times to damage her. He hit her multiple times moving at high speed and she was completely undamaged. The most damage he did was making her head bleed after ANOTHER series of high speed attacks.
Okay, so you feel free to ignore all the evidence in favor of headcanon. I won't be entertaining an argument that basically amounts to "nuh uh".
Her healing isn’t passive buddy. She was focused on her objective and didn’t bother to heal.Which would've healed in minutes after she achieved Heavenly Restriction.
Explain to me how reading muscle movements through body contact is better than air molecules telling Maki what her opponents does next?Ilpyo Park
Ilpyo Park (박일표) is the Jeonranamdo Province Champion of the G.O.H Tournament. He is considered as one of the top 3 fighters in the country and is famously known as Sakyamuni Ilpyo Park. 17 years after RagnarÖk, he becomes one of The Six and devoted himself to teaching Ssam-Su Taekkyeon. He is...vsbattles.fandom.com
Both the Kurukuru Unit and Ogi are featless outside of "their skilled".Aside from the fact I meant she is above those who she literally trained with (Kurukuru unit) and the fact that she got good enough to go toe to toe with Ogi to the point of breaking his sword. I was wrong about “more than half” statement. Most of it was about the massacre.
The overall point of typing that was to address the “she’s not skilled” claim.
???? What is this even meant to prove.Anyways, it seems like you are gonna make this conversation all about skill and completely miss the point of the actual argument of why Maki wins. So this is the last I’ll say on Maki’s skill because the point was saying Maki isn’t skilled is completely wrong lol.
I gave you proof. Your response to the proof was the literal equivalent of "nuh uh". Idk what more proof you want beyond that.Anything outside of what Mira’s own words says needs proof.
Okay soHer healing isn’t passive buddy. She was focused on her objective and didn’t bother to heal
That's not the full explanation. Ilpyo's profile is bad, so it doesn't actually elaborate on the details of his prediction beyond Gaksu, but the breakdown is that its better than shit that basically let's you look at them and know everything about them with 0 prior knowledge or research with pure analysis.Explain to me how reading muscle movements through body contact is better than air molecules telling Maki what her opponents does next?
I'm pretty sure it's not literally air molecules telling her how the opponent would move but rather she can know how they'll move by reading the changes in the air flowExplain to me how reading muscle movements through body contact is better than air molecules telling Maki what her opponents does next?
I gave you proof. Your response to the proof was the literal equivalent of "nuh uh". Idk what more proof you want beyond that.
That's not the full explanation. Ilpyo's profile is bad, so it doesn't actually elaborate on the details of his prediction beyond Gaksu, but the breakdown is that its better than shit that basically let's you look at them and know everything about them with 0 prior knowledge or research with pure analysis.
I'm pretty sure it's not literally air molecules telling her how the opponent would move but rather she can know how they'll move by reading the changes in the air flow
Calm down Arnold, I'm not voting just correcting what I felt was being blown out of proportionThanks for the info Captain obvious. It’s still more impressive than a prediction of muscle movements that requires body contact.
Because she literally ******* did it in a scan I sent you ??? your trying to act like you know more about the Marionette technique than Mira herself does despite the fact she uses it without the use of an embedded blade.For the last time, prove Mira can cause internal damage without an object within her opponent.
Give me a bit.If the other thing is about Llypo recognizing Mori’s abilities off of memory then that’s not even precog that’s just experience.
If that’s not what you meant, then eplain to us what makes his predictions better than Maki’s
Calm down Arnold, I'm not voting just correcting what I felt was being blown out of proportion
If you don't think that Maki is comparable to Mira then you can't make the argument that "Maki hits her," since unless she's comparable, Mira will dodge all of her attacks and counter them with sword slashes that make a 5x physical AP difference negligible. That's what happens to people that aren't comparable to Mira.Look I’m just a bit frustrated rn with all the Maki skill this maki skill that when the whole point was debunk the “Maki isn’t skilled” claim now they’re taking my arguments as me comparing it to Mira. When I literally admitted Maki isn’t nearly as skilled (but can use her supernatural advantage against it).
Because she literally ******* did it in a scan I sent you ???
Okay.Give me a bit.
The sword wasn't even inside her body. It was within the big ass shoulder pad things. There's not even a wound on her shoulder when her clothes explode.So why does she go out of her way to attack the sword and claim she did it to attack her insides? Isn’t that because the sword made it inside her highly durable body unlike those random fodder?
If you don't think that Maki is comparable to Mira then you can't make the argument that "Maki hits her," since unless she's comparable, Mira will dodge all of her attacks and counter them with sword slashes that make a 5x physical AP difference negligible. That's what happens to people that aren't comparable to Mira.
Hope this helps!
She can also smell colors.I'm pretty sure it's not literally air molecules telling her how the opponent would move but rather she can know how they'll move by reading the changes in the air flow
mf that ain't skill that's synaesthesiaShe can also smell colors.
Mate that was a joke.mf that ain't skill that's synaesthesia
The sword wasn't even inside her body. It was within the big ass shoulder pad things. There's not even a wound on her shoulder when her clothes explode.
"When will this shit end" when will you read, Arnold?My brother in Christ that mf shoulder was bleeding and Mirai literally says shoulder not shoulder pad.
When will this shit end.
mira had an 8-A key but it was downgraded to 8-B (40.04 Tons), which is what's being used hereUnless there's some other wierd scaling going on that I'm missing, Maki's Multi-City Block durability should let her tank Mira's Small Building to City Block attacks for long enough.
Then I stand by my statement. Maki's stats and hax should be enough to beat Mira's skill.mira had an 8-A key but it was downgraded to 8-B (40.04 Tons), which is what's being used here
Are you voting?Mira is definitely more skilled, but I doubt she's skilled enough to avoid being hit once which is all that Maki needs.