Magi: Labyrinth of Magic upgrades?

[GreatestSin]

^but with light the speed is so ridiculous that 10 meters would be nothing, in 1 second light moves 300,000,000 meters, 10 meters would be 1/30,000,000 seconds for reacting and casting the spell,

1 microsecond is 1/1,000,000 seconds, titus is 30 times faster, according to this site https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Reactions

it is in the realms of Massively Hypersonic+ Perception

is this calc correct?

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Hmmm.... There is not a feat where they actually dodged light or lightning instead of just reacting to it?

 

[GreatestSin]

this is the only one i remember: (she moved after the beam was shot, there are "movement lines" in the middle left panel)

http://i4.***********.net/magi/109/magi-3401163.jpg

but i would need to go through 300+ chapters in order to look for more possible feats :/

and, the distance to the light-beam-dark metal vessel seems roughly at 10 meters or so i think: http://i6.***********.net/magi/109/magi-3401165.jpg

http://i4.***********.net/magi/109/magi-3401167.jpg

 

[Inoue211]

Yamu has dodged light.

Morgiana has dodged lightning

Fanalis corps dodged lightning in the Magnostdatt invasion, Muu's sister was blocking lightning with some chunks of ground too.

Yunan and Arba were playing pingpong with lighting while laughing(well at least Arba was laughing since she's crazy) and Arba dodged a barrage of bolts in the meantime too.

Maybe someone that Sinbad fought in his series has dodged lightning as well

Leaving that asides there's the Yamato feat posted too.

 

[Antvasima]

@Inoue211 I would appreciate if you could post scans of the feats.

 

[Inoue211]

They've been posted already.

Anyways, "there's probably more but I remember these for being somewhat important fights". If someone feels like reading the entire manga to find more then congrats but for now these are some lightning ones. I won't post light dodging/blocking and whatever it is Yamuraiha is doing because they're like 2 posts above.


Aladdin and Judar, Balbadd

http://www.*************/manga/magi/v05/c046/16.html

Morgiana with a small barrage of those, Judar says that she's really fast

http://www.*************/manga/magi/v05/c048/5.html

http://www.*************/manga/magi/v05/c048/6.html

Fanalis corps, Myron seems to be having fun

http://www.*************/manga/magi/v12/c172/9.html

http://www.*************/manga/magi/v12/c172/10.html

Aladdin and Judar rematch

http://www.*************/manga/magi/v20/c255/3.html

Arba and Yunan. Well Arba is definetely having fun.

Here she punches and dodges a barrage

http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/309/page/3

http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/309/page/4

Here Yunan zaps her with a giant one

http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/309/page/5

http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/309/page/6

http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/309/page/7

http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/309/page/8

Here throws one at Yunan and moves to attack him an instant after he blocks it so nice strategy and movement speed

http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/309/page/9

http://reader.sensescans.com/read/magi__labyrinth_of_magic/en/27/309/page/10


Those are the ones that I remember but maybe there's more, also if someone can check Sinbad no Bouken since Sinbad uses Baal a lot there could be something. And like I said the Light ones are right above posted by GreatestSin.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I would very much appreciate if AidenBrooks999, or some other calculation group member, would be willing to calculate this.

You can ask them for help here (with a link to this thread), and tell them that I ask for their help as well:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/322091

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Yeah, I could try some of them later

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the help.

 

[Brandon2505]

So...

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I would prefer to get some calculations as well, but I cannot force other members to do so. I will ask however.

 

[Gabriel_00]

Chapter 323, are Solomon and Ugo universe level/universe+? Elder David metions world refering to a universe, also aladin stated that universes are separates timespaces.

http://yonkouprod.com/magi-chapter-323/

http://i3.**********.com/magi/214/magi-4791931.jpg

 

[Antvasima]

No. Just because they created a new planet within another universe, does not mean that they have demonstrated universe level power themselves.

 

[GreatestSin]

im still under the impression that they also created a universe for the planet to exist but i guess we would need more people to vote on that since both interpretations are possible,

either way, lol at everything that happened in ch323, sinbad is gone because he couldnt be satisfied with his already achieved position, i wonder if his djinns will create new dungeons (would be cool for alibaba to get 1 or 2 or them XD, i want him to get the mind controlling one and the motion-controlling djinn )

PS: did david now reach a lvl of "mastermind"-ness equal or higher than aizen? i mean, he basically saw everything that would happen from the moment of his defeat until now, this is some serious "everything is inside my plans".stuff right there >_<

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Ugo seems to have planned even further than he did at this point, but I suppose that story thematics require David to win somehow anyway, so Aladdin and his friends have something to fight against.

 

[GreatestSin]

^sinbad already died a anticlimatic death while i actually believed he would be the mastermind throughout the entire story,

i wouldnt be suprised if the mangaka actually gives us ugo defeating david

 

[Antvasima]

Well, then Ugo would have to become the final opponent instead, or the manga would have to end, as there is no major mission left to do.

 

[GreatestSin]

^that althamen woman requires a final defeat (and maybe eternal peace) but that would be it (i guess now that david and ugo happened, even if the mangaka is stretching this out a bit we will get the ending by max ch400 )

 

[Gabriel_00]

Ugo indeed just moved them from one universe to another, but ill illa should still have atleast 3-A level of power. Ugo probably have the same level of power giving the last page of the chapter and david saying that he can now rule not only a star but an entire world.

 

[Antvasima]

We cannot rate them so high based on speculation, especially given the massive difference in scale from the rest of the setting. However, an upgrade for Ugo to "At least 5-B" as guardian of the sacred palace seems in order.

 

[Gabriel_00]

About the final villain: i think that ill illa will be the final villain, maybe David will open a passage to ill illa enter the sacred palace or ill illa is just part of another being.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if I remember correctly, the dragon mentioned that Il Ilah is just a typical "god" of a single world, and that there are lots of much higher level lifeforms around.

 

[Gabriel_00]

http://yonkouprod.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Magi_323_17.png

This should be some evidence of 3-A/Low 2-C Ugo, but i'm not gonna force the subject maybe when we get more information about the sacred palace(probably next chapter).

 

[Antvasima]

Well, you can upgrade Ugo to "At least 5-B" if you wish.

 

[Inoue211]

^sinbad already died a anticlimatic death while i actually believed he would be the mastermind throughout the entire story,
i wouldnt be suprised if the mangaka actually gives us ugo defeating david

Sinbad was never portrayed as the final boss so dunno why you thought he'd be one.


David was always the final boss and hell when we learned that the only reason Sinbad was special is because of David it just made it more clear.

 

[Inoue211]

We cannot rate them so high based on speculation, especially given the massive difference in scale from the rest of the setting. However, an upgrade for Ugo to "At least 5-B" as guardian of the sacred palace seems in order.

Ugo is not only the guardian but he is unironically God, Ohtaka uses the same Kanji for God when writing his name in the last chapter.

I think we should wait for the fight/the manga to end to tier him, but from what we got now Ugo might be universal level because David admits that he can not only rule a star but the entire world, and yes the world means the universe.


See: The difference is that they refer as a planet as "Star" but the "World" as the entire world, they don't talk about the world meaning a planet. When Sinbad and Aladdin talked about planets before they also referred to them as stars, but when they talked about alternate universes Aladdin said it was a "world". Now David says the same thing.



I think we should wait, but i'm saying right now that world is not a planet.

 

[Antvasima]

All that we know for a fact is that Ugo created a planet, and was elevated to his current stature from the power of Il Ilah, who was referred to as a very small planetary deity. It does not make any sense to elevate him to universal scale without explicit proof.

 

[Inoue211]

Adding two more. Judar gets pushed out the planet by Aladdin. Aladdin refers again to the universe as "world" and the planet as a planet/star saying that he will never stop until the ends of the world.

By the way, Ugo was the one that saved Judar after he floated, he also restored him(see his clothes and damage being repaired in the last page). And Judar was already far away from Earth

 

[Antvasima]

That simply means multi-solar system level range, not beyond planetary level raw power.

 

[Antvasima]

However, feel free to upgrade Ugo to "At least Planet level" Attack Potency, and "Multi-Solar System" level range, if you wish.

 

[Inoue211]

That simply means multi-solar system level range, not beyond planetary level raw power.

I think we should just wait for this fight to be over. It's not like there's a rush to change Ugo considering there's still a lot of profiles that need to be updated.


What happened to AidenBrooks999 anyways? wasn't he supposed to calc the the speed and stuff from characters based on the fact that magic works with real elements?

 

[Antvasima]

You can place a polite question on his message wall, asking for his help here, if you wish.

 

[GreatestSin]

^why being so angry about someones opinion?

it isnt like he stops us from upgrading ugo, it is simply that there isnt that much solid evidence to put ugo on that lvl,

and as it seems, you are a fan of magi, so would you want to see this great story losing on value simply because people give it undeserved lvls? imo the better the story, the more we need to watch over the abilitys we give them, they deserve it (and i guess this sounds cheesy? afterall i really should go to sleep )

 

[NotEvenHuman]

Sometimes i wish admins could IP block without asking wikia.

 

[GreatestSin]

^ah, ok, than have a nice time being banned ^_^

as for this thread:

we should really add speed to the chars, the "light of rukh = light of nature" thing was already agreed on,

so i propose for people who are on the female-water-magicians and pre-timeskip alladins lvl to get "peak human movement speed and possibly relativistic in reaction speed" (we did this for people of the Black Clover verse already) for people in base,

and a "at least superhuman in movement speed for the ones who use full djinn equip", even pre-timeskip alladin was this fast: http://www.***********.net/magi/253/5 (he was fast enough to take alibaba away before he touched rens hand)

and full djinn alibaba and ren: http://www.***********.net/magi/254/6 (this is why i said superhuman in movement speed, they moved out of the city while having fought a moment earlier right in the middle of it and than past a few small mountains, this should count for this speed at least)

 

[Antvasima]

I think that the troll is likely either Mikoto, Imago, or BGO. Or at least they are the only ones that I know of who are this obsessed about me or this wiki.