Madoka vs. Enerjak redux

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Ultimate Madoka vs. True Enerjak

Who will win?



This guy makes Mogul look like a noob

 

[ElixirBlue]

What changed from the original?

Edit: Enerjak (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave)

Madoka Kaname

 

[SomebodyData]

Ultimate Madoka now has all memoria from the game, which varies from a lot of activated abilties to passive-esque abilities (more like side-effects).

 

[ElixirBlue]

What was Enerjak's wincon in the previous match?

 

[SomebodyData]

I wasn't there, but I believed it was Concept Maniping Madoka. Her original passives were never mentioned, not sure how that got missed.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It was also the astounding AP advantage that Enerjak had, but he lost it and now scales vastly above baseline as opposed to scaling vastly above millions of times baseline.

 

[SomebodyData]

According to the thread the AP was never a factor, maybe we're reading different threads tho?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

It was also the astounding AP advantage that Enerjak had, but he lost it and now scales vastly above baseline as opposed to scaling vastly above millions of times baseline.

Furthermore, if he lost his AP, can you show me the downgrade CRT?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Bump

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Bump

 

[ElixirBlue]

If she doesn't resistant it, I'm voting for Enerjak for Conceptual Manipulation type 2.

 

[SomebodyData]

Won't happen, she has more passive-esque abilities now, including Empathic Manipulation and Power Nullification.

On top of her other passives, which I'm still wondering why they got ignored unless I'm missing some context.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Archie Sonic got hit with the nerf hammer, Madoka FRA

 

[Dragopentling]

Precious Goddess FRA. Sry if I have nothing else to add

P.s. this feels stomp-ish now. Enerjak memes went Bye Bye Bye, it seems.

 

[ElixirBlue]

@Somebody Data

Could you go into further detail of Madoka's passives to see this a stomp or not?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

What are the hax passives? And madoka is only 2x the baseline?

also your passives affect abstract beings and higher dimensions?

 

[Dragopentling]

What are the hax passives? And madoka is only 2x the baseline?
also your passives affect abstract beings and higher dimensions?

Nearly all of Madoka's abilities are at least 4D level in this key.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

But what are the passives?

 

[Dragopentling]

@SomebodyData can specify on that. I can't, though.

 

[SomebodyData]

New passives and old passives (thank you RKGenki).

Original thread on her ability upscaling.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Doesn't Enerjak resists Law Manipulation?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Won't happen, she has more passive-esque abilities now, including Empathic Manipulation and Power Nullification.
On top of her other passives, which I'm still wondering why they got ignored unless I'm missing some context.

Probably becuz Enerjak resists those.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Madoka: 4 (Beast, Drago, Zach, SD)

Enerjak: 1 (Elixir)

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Okay, so I just took a glimpse through both profiles and the links you provided and it seems that the reason why the passives were ignored is probably because Enerjak resisted those.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Enerjak resists a lot of passives.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Okay, so I just took a glimpse through both profiles and the links you provided and it seems that the reason why the passives were ignored is probably because Enerjak resisted those.

Because UKG who has the same resistance like Enerjak, still got affected by it. And UKG is a nonexistent being, so hers is more powerful.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Because UKG who has the same resistance like Enerjak, still got affected by it. And UKG is a nonexistent being, so hers is more powerful.

"Resistance to Law Manipulation (Was able to manifest after Madoka destroyed witches on a conceptual level and the Law of Cycles was preventing her existence, although she was still affected in the end)"

That means UKG had weak resistance. I don't why that applies to Enerjak.

 

[Jinsye]

That's not how it works. Madokq haxxing UKG is a feat for Madoka, not an anti-feat for UKG

 

[ElixirBlue]

UKG gained Law resistance from that feat with the witches destroyed or not?

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

UKG gained Law resistance from that feat with the witches destroyed or not?

>Madoka made a wish to conceptual erase every witches. (basically creating a Law that says "no witches")

>Witches got erased except for UKG who now become a nonexistent being. (a resistance)

>Ultimate Madoka popped out and "erased" UKG again despite being a nonexistent creature. (Put a Law that says "no UKG")

>UKG is now trapped within a nonexistent Multiverse.

 

[ElixirBlue]

So, that is the extent of the resistance? Loophole in the law?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Also Cal said Enerjak's AP was downgraded, can I see the CRT?

 

[Dragopentling]

How good is Enerjak's so-called resistance and where's the scans for such?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Sorry sir, I don't have any scans. I'm not knowledgeable about Archie Sonic. You'll have to ask someone else. I'm just going by what his profile has. How good is Enerjak's so-called resistance? I bet it's based on the AP of the verse.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

AP has nothing to do with hax, unless you're infinitely above baseline.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

I thought he was asking about the potency of the resistance so...

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

So how good is it?

 

[Theuser789]

Enerjak's AP was never downgraded, the ****?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

@Theuser

It was also the astounding AP advantage that Enerjak had, but he lost it and now scales vastly above baseline as opposed to scaling vastly above millions of times baseline.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

@Beast

Dunno. I'm not knowledgeable about Archie Sonic. That was just my assumption about the potency of his resistance being his AP, since he fought Sonic who had about the same AP.