Madoka vs. Enerjak redux

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Continue? Most of these passives have an impact on this battle.
Also does he not have Regenerationn or was that accidently erased or something?

He used to have Low-Godly regen iirc. But it was removed shortly. About that, you can ask these guys.

 

[ElixirBlue]

I'm not downplaying. What?

I'm talking about Madoka's Darkness Manipulation blinding omnipresent.

SomebodyData brought up Madoka's Darkness Manipulation as something that can effect Enerjak and I'm questioning it.

How am I toxic?

@Beast Zero Gudako

I've been talking about Darkness Manipulation the whole time when I brought up Omnipresent. Powernull is something unrelated to why I'm talking about Omnipresent.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

1- The first one was passive, the second one is an action.
2- Then better update Enerjak because

"Holy Manipulation (Forces you to speak your sins while burning away), Regenerationn Negation (He does regen right? I can't find it on his page and I find it hard to believe he just gets poison maniped to death), Darkness Manipulation / Dazzle (In PMMM, it just makes you blind, but also affects extrasensory perception), Skill / Magia Seal (Seals passive abilities and non-standard attacks), Curse Manip (Damages the enemy overtime)?"

None of these are resisted.

He does resist Holy Manipulation and Poison Manipulation. I don't see any resistances of Darkness Manipulation and Curse Manipulation on his profile, though. So I'll give you points for those. Also can you elaborate further "Seals passive abilities and non-standard attacks" further? Especially the non-standard attacks. Because I'm pretty sure that Enerjak doesn't have any passive abilities.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Edit: There appears to be miscommunication in this thread. Madoka shouldn't be able to blind Enerjak but no one wants to engage with me on that conversation. My mistake for being nitpicky with "possible"

 

[Dragopentling]

Continue? Most of these passives have an impact on this battle.
Also does he not have Regenerationn or was that accidently erased or something?

He used to have Low-Godly regen iirc. But it was removed shortly. About that, you can ask these guys.

His regen was removed? Okay that's not looking good for him here.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

@Elixir Why did you mentioned Darkness manip to me then when my argument is based on powernul?

 

[ElixirBlue]

@Elixir Why did you mentioned Darkness manip to me then when my argument is based on powernul?

Elixir: "Go on? Madoka's Darkness manipulation, Curse Manip (Damages the enemy overtime), they wouldn't work on a Omnipresence, Cosmic Awareness, Non Corporal and Abstract Existence."

Thinking you included Darkness Manipulation and I didn't see Omnipresent in UKG's power/abilities like Enerjak was... only later find it in speed, of all places...

Beast: "Why it wouldn't work on "Omnipresence, Cosmic Awareness, Non Corporal and Abstract Existence." When Madoka capable of affecting "a creature without literal concept, who is also an Omnipresent, cosmic awareness and has tons of resistances and also has the Arsenal to kill a being like Madoka"?"

I mentally was continuing the conversation about Darkness Manipulation. My bad.

 

[ElixirBlue]

And I was replying to SomebodyData originally about Darkness Manipulation.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

I don't know what SD mean by using darkness manip, of all thing, on the battle between two abstraction (unless said darkness manip has some special propeties which I have no idea about). So, you gotta ask him for that.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Thank you. I also thought it was weird to bring up darkness Manipulation. Then I thought my logic was wrong when people kept fighting against me on it but that's what I get about being nitpicky about possible ratings.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Anyway, UKG being a nonexistent entity means that she is harder to be interracted with than Jack who is just an abstraction. And Madoka is affecting UKG despite the latter Nonexistent Physiology, she shouldn't be having problem affecting abstraction like Jack. Added with Jack lacks of crazy survibility like UKG, I seriously doubt he would comeback after being erased, considering his resistances are inferior to UKG. This discounting the passive stuff like powernul and Holy manip.

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

@Elixir Sorry if I misunderstood anything, but you were talking about UKG's omnipresent is nowhere near as good as Enerjak because hers is "possibly" compared to Enerjak's true omnipresence.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Eh, I was trying to guess SomebodyData's reasoning when it came to Darkness Manipulation when I was being nitpicky about UKG. I was also salty I couldn't immediately find Omnipresent on UKG's page.

 

[Dragopentling]

Considering UKG is "Non existent", I'm not sure if Omnipresence would properly apply, tbh. In a way, it's kinda harder to kill a non existent being than an omnipresent one.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

well you can be omnipresent and non-existent if you are the embodiment of the void of the universe / multiverse look at oblivio, exdeath or The black guardia ect.

 

[SomebodyData]

@Elixir UKG is only possible omnipresent because of the events of Rebellion. For the battle, it really doesn't matter though, thru sheer size its basically omnipresent anyways.

Darkness Manip has affected AE beings before, in PMMM its mostly an advanced form of sensory manip.

The 'loophole' was literally not having a concept to affect in the first place.

The Skill Seal negating passive abilities includes resistances.

 

[Dragopentling]

Puella Magi to me is one of those verses where having resistances kinda doesn't matter as much as one would think.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Puella Magi to me is one of those verses where having resistances kinda doesn't matter as much as one would think.

That sounds like SMT for some reason

 

[Dragopentling]

Puella Magi to me is one of those verses where having resistances kinda doesn't matter as much as one would think.

That sounds like SMT for some reason

It kinda is like that, but SMT's case is just absurd....in a good way.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

yeah

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Did I already cast my vote? If not, voting for Madoka for my own reason.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Bump?

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

I'm no longer interested in this. So anyone feel free to take over.

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Lol

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Madoka: 4 (Beast, Drago, Zach, SD)
Enerjak: 1 (Elixir)

Also the votes.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

You forgot my vote >.>

 

[Theuser789]

Enerjak for Elixir's reasons

 

[Lord_JJJ]

Madoka FRA

 

[Schnee_One]

Madoka FRA

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Pmmm destroys archie sonic fra

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Little girl FRA

 

[Sadistic_Sleuth]

Mado FRA

 

[Dragopentling]

looks like grace?

 

[ShrekAnakin]

MAdoka FRA

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Next time throw Madoka against this pile of wank lel

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

nasuverse vs pmmm this will be Ugly

 

[Rose_of_Ragnarok]

Coming back one last time to count up all the votes.

Madokami: 11

Enerjak: 2

And that's grace.

 

[Dragopentling]

Next time throw Madoka against this pile of wank lel

Oh this guy literally gets shatstomped. Goddess Madoka kinda just shats on the entire Nasuverse even with the 2A keys.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

so let's get serious XDXD

okno, well the only good hax of homura is the mind hax or has passive hax as madoka? I ask why I want to do a versus her against the Qward Tita since mafoka stomps on mobius with passives, but mobius resists the mind hax of homura and I was wondering if I had something to face the AM

 

[Beast_Zero_Gudako]

Depends, how good is his Mindhax resistance? Although Homura has more than just mindhax, she got both Law manip and Conceptual manip that easily ignored Madoka type 5 Acausality.