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Telikinetically pushing to throw someone is lifting strength though
That does not kill
That does not kill
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Luke mind haxes Mewtwo
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Regular humans >>>>> Most of the pokemon in intelligence. They do not have the mental capacity of having an strategy, that is why trainers are a thing. Some have absurd IQs, but very few can operate logically without a trainer.
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Trainer: "Alakazam, use Scratch!"
Alakazam: "What are you making me do, boy?! I'm Alakazam, the strongest Psychic Pokémon, the most intelligent Pokémon ever, and I DON'T TAKE ORD-
Oh, wait, you have five badges. Fine then."
Alakazam: "What are you making me do, boy?! I'm Alakazam, the strongest Psychic Pokémon, the most intelligent Pokémon ever, and I DON'T TAKE ORD-
Oh, wait, you have five badges. Fine then."
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Have you ever seen an alakazam in the pokemon league that is like "No, shut up trainer. I am going to use Psychic and i am not going to use scratch."
Not to mention that the pokedex is canonically written by the MCs as they go on in their adventure.
Not to mention that the pokedex is canonically written by the MCs as they go on in their adventure.
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You cannot take it seriously.
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Kyle Ramos said:
Headcanon, maybe.
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If Oak wrote them, then he wouldnt have tasked Red to ID them.
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Not just Oak, but a large team of researchers and professors worked on the Pokedex.
And he needed someone young to help them to go into the field and record info about the Pokemon.
So...Red happened.
And he needed someone young to help them to go into the field and record info about the Pokemon.
So...Red happened.
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Kyle Ramos said:
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Instead of laughing at him, you should just explain why he is wrong. You know, not being a d*ck about it and all.
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I've heard this talk about the protagonists being the ones writing the Pokedex, despite clear evidence proving otherwise, and I'm frankly sick of having to have it explained again.LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Though I suppose I could have used a little more tact. Still, you can't beat that gif for getting to the point of the matter.
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Thing is, it doesn't matter who wrote it. The Pokédex is meant to explain the Pokémon lore. Just that enough would make it absolute in terms of canon.
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And I couldn't resist from having two laughing gifs going exactly at the same pace
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@Starter Pack
You'd be surprised the amount of times I had to pull the same scans over and over just to prove Luke's mindhax and that he starts with it. That, frankly, isn't an excuse (coming from someone who fairly recently blow'd up at Cal for repeating the "I hate hax" thing in another Luke thread). Be "the better guy" and just explain it, with respect. Maybe he genuinely doesn't know the lore and is going off the many (fake) articles "explaining" the franchise.
The point of the matter should have been [insert proof here] and an explanation. That is all.
Will stop derailing now.
You'd be surprised the amount of times I had to pull the same scans over and over just to prove Luke's mindhax and that he starts with it. That, frankly, isn't an excuse (coming from someone who fairly recently blow'd up at Cal for repeating the "I hate hax" thing in another Luke thread). Be "the better guy" and just explain it, with respect. Maybe he genuinely doesn't know the lore and is going off the many (fake) articles "explaining" the franchise.
The point of the matter should have been [insert proof here] and an explanation. That is all.
Will stop derailing now.
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Is called a joke Lephyr, lighten up and don't take it so badly.
Also, saying the Pokedex is mostly written by the MC is... A pretty big assumption out of nowhere. He mentioned it, is his job to supplement proof why that's the case.
Also, Howard has a point (unless I am forgetting something in the games, hue), what he does in the series and the actual move are different things. A literal description of the move from one of the later games, "The foe is hit by a strong telekinetic force".
Also, saying the Pokedex is mostly written by the MC is... A pretty big assumption out of nowhere. He mentioned it, is his job to supplement proof why that's the case.
Also, Howard has a point (unless I am forgetting something in the games, hue), what he does in the series and the actual move are different things. A literal description of the move from one of the later games, "The foe is hit by a strong telekinetic force".
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Not everyone will take it as "just a joke".
I'm all in for a party whenever. ovo
However, when in a debate, we should just be respectful and try to limit the "cheap shots".
I'm all in for a party whenever. ovo
However, when in a debate, we should just be respectful and try to limit the "cheap shots".
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Obviously, but I always keep it mindful not to turn too stiff over small jokes. If the person is actually bothered, they can communicate it. Otherwise it feels like walking on eggshells.
I'd also hope he justifies his point because, burden of proof and denying such a big source of info without justification.
What kind of party are we talking about here ovO?
I'd also hope he justifies his point because, burden of proof and denying such a big source of info without justification.
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I simply prefer to avoid it all together.
all of them 
ovo
ovo
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That is why Oak tells Red to fill up the pokedex and Id all the pokemon.
That is what happens on every single generation. If the dex already had all the info, they wouldnt ask a kid to ID them all. A 10 year old kid is writting them with their imagination. Since tehre is no evidence of someone testing Alakazam's 700 iq, that abra was once a kid, gardevoir creating black holes or that arceus originated from a egg in the beginning of time.
That is what happens on every single generation. If the dex already had all the info, they wouldnt ask a kid to ID them all. A 10 year old kid is writting them with their imagination. Since tehre is no evidence of someone testing Alakazam's 700 iq, that abra was once a kid, gardevoir creating black holes or that arceus originated from a egg in the beginning of time.
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Yes, because a 10-year-old is going to be able to say that Deoxys is a mutated space virus right off the top of his head, or that Yveltal kills everything around it when it dies, even though they have no idea what it can do and have no reference beforehand.
And if you're saying that the MC's are just making it up as they go along, well then, tough. As Triforce said, the Pokedex is essentially the word of god for this franchise, so we have to assume what it says is canon.
And, as LSir also explained, you wanna make a large assumption like that? Back it up with solid proof instead of headcanon. Otherwise, this whole debate is a waste of time.
And if you're saying that the MC's are just making it up as they go along, well then, tough. As Triforce said, the Pokedex is essentially the word of god for this franchise, so we have to assume what it says is canon.
And, as LSir also explained, you wanna make a large assumption like that? Back it up with solid proof instead of headcanon. Otherwise, this whole debate is a waste of time.
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There aren't any reasons
Only one is "Mewtwo thinks and explodes" which he's never done in character ever and Luke has the equal chance of thinking and mindhaxing Mewtwo
Only one is "Mewtwo thinks and explodes" which he's never done in character ever and Luke has the equal chance of thinking and mindhaxing Mewtwo
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Why?
What stops Luke from thinking "Leave"?
What stops Luke from thinking "Leave"?
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what stops mewtwo from thinking "blow up"?Schnee One said:
i think i get what you are saying tho. it is unknown if mewtwo goes for the mindhax blow up first considering there are many versions of mewtwo and we dont know his personality. but still luke also does not nesesarily goes frst for the mindhax. i think we should bloodlust them.
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In character
"still Luke does not nesesarily goes first for the mindhax"
Yes, yes he does
"still Luke does not nesesarily goes first for the mindhax"
Yes, yes he does
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mewtwo can goes for mindhax kill first too. i mean if we have different versions of mewtwo then why don't we use the pokedex? i mean it does not do much harm to use the only thing that can help us.Schnee One said:
however i understand your point and i guess ill change to inconc for now
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There's no need.
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I could swear the starting attack of Mewtwo was making people go dumb, going from that old "Mewtwo vs Frieza" thread.
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But really, I always assumed it was doing something like Brainwashing to incap or smth going from most arguments I had seen.
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Luke resists mindhax that's far above Mewtwo.
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That was a prepped match.FateAlbane said:
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Ye, that's why I'm saying. Most Mewtwo threads I've seen the argument being that Mewtwo would brainwash/something to affect the mind, not an outright physical effect like blowing someone up.
If that is so Luke would most certainly win as he would try the same and his mind hax is >>>>>.
Did Mewtwo's way of acting change in recent iterations or am I missing something here?
If that is so Luke would most certainly win as he would try the same and his mind hax is >>>>>.
Did Mewtwo's way of acting change in recent iterations or am I missing something here?
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People mainly Drago debunked it some months ago.
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The real cal howard said:
I'm not voting here, I don't know either that well. Just wondering about the whole starting move thing.
