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Luck Voltia VS Kamen Rider Vulcan [GRACE END](2-7-0)

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-Both are in their 8-A key

-Speed are equalized

-Otherwise SBA

Lightning Boy: 2 (Epsilon-R, Milly_Rocking_Bandit)

Wolf Boy: 7 (Jamesthetaker, Metal Batta, IxaSaga2, Loyd, Velox, Sonicflare9,BERRIES555)
 
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Kamen Rider Thouser is 1000x times stronger than base Zero-One's = 0.468100516 x 1000 = 468 tons of TNT. Vulcan casually stomp him with ease.

Luck scales to Asta who is 155.6 tons.

From the start, Vulcan is 3x times stronger than Luck. Luck has some pretty good amp and Reactive Power Level to increase his speed. He also fought against stronger opponent like Vetto before, albeit with help.

Vulcan has quite abilities here, minus with a good RPL of his own. Vulcan has Analytical Prediction and had fought against enemy with similar ability like Thouser.

Overall, i vote Vulcan he has AP and versatile advantage which give him more option to choose from, his Analytical Prediction should help him against Luck speed amp (although this form also focus on speed).

This is how he usually fight, skip to 1:10.
 
From the start, Vulcan is 3x times stronger than Luck. Luck has some pretty good amp and Reactive Power Level to increase his speed. He also fought against stronger opponent like Vetto before, albeit with help.

Vulcan has quite abilities here, minus with a good RPL of his own. Vulcan has Analytical Prediction and had fought against enemy with similar ability like Thouser.

Overall, i vote Vulcan he has AP and versatile advantage which give him more option to choose from, his Analytical Prediction should help him against Luck speed amp (although this form also focus on speed).
Luck consistently fights and takes strikes from people strong enough to one-shot him, such as Vetto, who has been confirmed stronger than Yami, so even with a 3x ap advantage, that isn't going to impede him in the slightest. His adaption is virtually instant, as he went from getting blitzed to adapting and instantly figuring out the weakness behind Vetto's attack. Analytical Prediction won't help him in the slightest against danmaku of this caliber, as to which he's only going to get faster, his attacks are going to get deadlier. Voting Luck.
 
Vulcan RPL and Precognition which come from a scaling chain like this:

Zero One Shining Hopper's << 01 Shining Assault Hopper's << Kamen Rider Thouser << 01 Metal Cluster Hopper's = Vulcan Rampage's

Each of them have their own version of Reactive Power Level and Analytical Prediction, with Vulcan's being one of the best user.

Vulcan's higher AP would come in play as he casually shrug off Fighting Jackal Rider's attack with ease.

Vulcan also has speed amp in this form through using Rider Models. Earlier in the series, he have displayed impressive acrobatics skills as he can pull out stunt moves.

Vulcan's constantly shifting his power in a fight and could do so in matter of second, which is different from Vetto's fighting style. It should be noted that Vulcan was not the only person with this kind of fighting style. To comparison, Thouser who frequently fight like this and got stomped by Vulcan's.

Another helpful ability is that Vulcan's can summon Rider Model to help him in this fight.
 
Vulcan RPL and Precognition which come from a scaling chain like this:

Zero One Shining Hopper's << 01 Shining Assault Hopper's << Kamen Rider Thouser << 01 Metal Cluster Hopper's = Vulcan Rampage's

Each of them have their own version of Reactive Power Level and Analytical Prediction, with Vulcan's being one of the best user.
Unless that RPL can keep up with someone who can go from being blitzed to keeping up and evading a number of attacks, it doesn't mean much.


Vulcan's higher AP would come in play as he casually shrug off Fighting Jackal Rider's attack with ease.

Vulcan also has speed amp in this form through using Rider Models. Earlier in the series, he have displayed impressive acrobatics skills as he can pull out stunt moves.
Higher AP doesn't mean anything to Luck, his stamina and durability has him constantly take strikes from people who can do grave damage to him and keep fighting at better potency than before, due to his RPL. Luck also has acrobatics, so. Speed Amps are Luck's thing, added with RPL, can't see why it matters.


Vulcan's constantly shifting his power in a fight and could do so in matter of second, which is different from Vetto's fighting style. It should be noted that Vulcan was not the only person with this kind of fighting style. To comparison, Thouser who frequently fight like this and got stomped by Vulcan's.
Okay? What exactly stops Luck from adapting to it like he did Vetto, and figuring out how it works after a simple exchange? How does Vulcan deal with danmaku spam and his increasing speed?
 
I will also lean towards Luck here. His RPL is quicker and better and most of Vulcan's advantages such as AP/Dura and Precog, Luck has already fought against that
 
Unless that RPL can keep up with someone who can go from being blitzed to keeping up and evading a number of attacks, it doesn't mean much.
Yes, Dodo Magia (weakest RPL/Analytic Prediction) managed to easily read through Shining Hopper (first activation) stat (1.9x) and constants TP spams that and speed only after around 10 seconds of exposure. Shining Hopper true power allow Zero One to easily out RPL and Analytic Prediction Dodo with ease and Thouser and so on.

And RPL of Vulcan caliber should be around Kamen Rider Horobi’s level who could close 1000x or so in stat difference by merely reading through Thouser every move.
 
Yes, Dodo Magia (weakest RPL/Analytic Prediction) managed to easily read through Shining Hopper (first activation) stat (1.9x) and constants TP spams that and speed only after around 10 seconds of exposure. Shining Hopper true power allow Zero One to easily out RPL and Analytic Prediction Dodo with ease and Thouser and so on.
Ten seconds of exposure while Luck is pretty much instant in comparison. He got hit with one attack, got up, and adapted. A stat amp of 1.9 doesn't compare to the disparity between Luck and Vetto, as he knew full well he could get one-shot, but got up.


And RPL of Vulcan caliber should be around Kamen Rider Horobi’s level who could close 1000x or so in stat difference by merely reading through Thouser every move.
That's fine, assuming he has enough time to do so, considering Luck's amps and RPL is faster.
 
If Luck wants to get hit to by Vulcan to adapt, then can he survive the explosion manip. that comes with? It applies to every Kamen Rider character that if you get hit with a finisher that your durability can't handle, you explode from the inside out. Vulcan starts with his finishers a lot too.
 
If Luck wants to get hit to by Vulcan to adapt, then can he survive the explosion manip. that comes with? It applies to every Kamen Rider character that if you get hit with a finisher that your durability can't handle, you explode. Vulcan starts with his finishers a lot too.
As said numerous times before, Luck takes strikes people people who can one-shot him and keeps moving.
 
If the opponents does not have the defenses to measure up against the Kamen Rider's finishers, then they explode.

Edit: Grammar, oops
 
Survive exploding from the inside out? I call cap. You don't even have an argument against what I'm saying. All you say is he can without proof.
I'm voting Vulcan.
 
You have such a weird argument. What assumes that's even going to hit him, nor did you even specify what the explosion manipulation was in detail. Luck also vastly outranges, so, there's that too.
 
Monsters only explode and die when the Rider's Finisher is far greater than them. Riders can perform Finishers on each other, explode, and come out fine, if not depowered. In fact, two Finishers can cancel each other out if both Riders are of equal AP. It's not guaranteed that a Finisher explosion will instantly kill an opponent.
 
Monsters only explode and die when the Rider's Finisher is far greater than them. Riders can perform Finishers on each other, explode, and come out fine, if not depowered. In fact, two Finishers can cancel each other out if both Riders are of equal AP. It's not guaranteed that a Finisher explosion will instantly kill an opponent.
If that's it, Luck would easily survive that, assuming it even gets the chance to hit him before he goes for Vulcan's head with dozens of lightning orbs.
 
Monsters only explode and die when the Rider's Finisher is far greater than them. Riders can perform Finishers on each other, explode, and come out fine, if not depowered. In fact, two Finishers can cancel each other out if both Riders are of equal AP. It's not guaranteed that a Finisher explosion will instantly kill an opponent.
Not exactly, there have been many times that Rider's finishers explode people stronger than them. Examples like Faiz vs Bat Orph, Agito vs the Queen Jaguar.
It is not guaranteed but its a very high chance. Them getting depowered is the suit saving them from the explosion. (It says in the specs that if critical damage then the suit saves them)
 
You have such a weird argument. What assumes that's even going to hit him, nor did you even specify what the explosion manipulation was in detail. Luck also vastly outranges, so, there's that too.
Vulcan can start out with Speed Rampage Blast. This amps his speed up and is a finisher. I'll explain the explosion manip. So in Tokusatsu (think Power Rangers) , if a monster gets hit with a finisher their durability can't handle, they explode from the inside outwards exploding into multiple pieces.
 
Vulcan can start out with Speed Rampage Blast. This amps his speed up and is a finisher.
Already established Luck can survive that anyways.


I'll explain the explosion manip. So in Tokusatsu (think Power Rangers) , if a monster gets hit with a finisher their durability can't handle, they explode from the inside outwards exploding into multiple pieces.
I'm aware, don't see how it matters considering it's not going to hit or kill him.
 
He's gonna hit him. There are the things built in to the suit to help increase his accuracy, I could go into more detail if you want.

Shoot, I should also note that Vulcan's Rampage Speed Blast is a series of different attacks and not just one attack. It is a combo of a speed amp from Rushing Cheetah, Flight and Aoe feather attacks from Flying Falcon, and Danmaku and electricity attacks with Lightning Hornet. He adjusts the sequence to whatever fits.

If that still doesn't work then he can use either Rampage Power Blast or Rampage Element Blast. Element Blast is the better option of hitting people so Vulcan will go with this.

Rampage Element Blast works like a series of different attacks too. It can be an Aoe freeze that is able to freeze enemies to blocks of ice. He can also release an Aoe 1600 degree Celsius fire. He can also use a stinger that can freely move wherever he wants it to go with an attack that deconstruct enemies at a molecular level.
 
As said numerous times before, Luck takes strikes people people who can one-shot him and keeps moving.
And then Vulcan can easily RPL through it just fine. Does Luck have feat of RPL through 1000x stat gaps before? It take more than
Ten seconds of exposure while Luck is pretty much instant in comparison. He got hit with one attack, got up, and adapted. A stat amp of 1.9 doesn't compare to the disparity between Luck and Vetto, as he knew full well he could get one-shot, but got up.
yes, but you gotta remembered that is literally the bottom of the barrel RPL and Analytic Prediction, Dodo Magia have a chance to dodge before Shining Arithmetic kick in and then it stop being a fight as Aruto blitz and dodge through every single attack that Dodo throw at him. Vulcan by this point wouldn’t even need any of his special abilities to close the gap in the slightest. Horobi, who’s Vulcan scale to in term of RPL by this point, take a single glance at Thouser fighting style and easily crossed 1000x stat gap.

Never mind that speedster is something that he have beaten before. Valkyrie do a stealth attack Vulcan while she’s in her speed blitz mode and he’s easily predict where she will come from.

Not only that. Vulcan can speed amp himself whenever he wished with his power, or stat amp himself so hard that a finisher didn’t even flinch him.

And talking about being beaten down. Vulcan have his fair share of ass beating himself. He survive High 8-C finisher as an 8-C multiple times. And as a High 8-C he continue to get back up against Thouser again and again, and Thouser is 8-A, strong enough to one shot a Rider that could argue to be as strong if not stronger than him (Zero One Shining Assault Hopper).
 
Vulcan was able to stomp 2 people with with AP 3x that of Luck. So Fuwa's AP is much higher than 455 Tons. With his finishers then being able to oneshot people on his level.

Fuwa's also able to keep up with Horobi's Precog which is 4x faster than Thouser's Precog which is already 4x faster than the Shining Arithmetic, which is far stronger than the Dodo Magia's Precog. I don't think Luck blitzing Fuwa through RPL would do much since Fuwa's easily kept up with people who could blitz before. And the fact that his own Precog and speed boost would definitely help him keep up with Luck.

Also, just wondering but does Luck's RPL come from his reacting to stronger people's power or just him getting stronger?
 
Oh yeah, those people above also scale stronger than their base self since everyone and their mother in this verse have RPL with the chain being.

Rampage Vulcan >>> Thouser (Pre-EP 39)[Managed to narrowly defeat berserk MCH with his finisher] > Metal Cluster Hopper (Pre-Progise Hopper Blade)[Easily defeat Thouser multiple times with ease] >>> Thouser (Pre Progrise Hopper Blade)[445 tons]

And there’s plenty of abilities that’ll wreck Luck as well if he get hit by them. Scorpion Stinger paralyzed and deconstruct target down to their molecular level, AoE flash freeze, 1600 degree fire for example.

And if push came to shove then he can summons all of his Rider Models help him fight. So that’s a problem as well. Dude also resist Electric Manip so there’s that as well.
 
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all these names and moves.. i can't even tell whats happening anymore but voting for the guy in the suit FRA i guess
 
And then Vulcan can easily RPL through it just fine. Does Luck have feat of RPL through 1000x stat gaps before? It take more than
He RPL against Vetto who is Low 6-B (7-A if a AP downgrade occurs) and who has a forcefield of Mana that weakens attacks. Needless to say that's wayyyy more than 1000x stat gap
Speed wise, he also went from nearly getting blitzed by Vetto to outrunning him and dodge his attacks, despite the latter having Analytical Prediction
 
Does Luck’s RPL come from him reacting to his opponent’s power or just him getting stronger?

Luck’s durability won’t help him with getting deconstructed on the molecular level.
 
Fuwa’s layered precog and the fact that he could keep up with people blitzing him should allow him to land the deconstruct.
 
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