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Oh okay, so do the people Luck fight cannot predict his moves because he doesn't have Ki?
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RPL doesn't make you into Low 6-B suddenly like that. The only reason Luck can keep up with him is speed.Because that's via RPL.
Magna came in the fight way later. Before that, Luck was trading blows with Vetto who previously made him bleed in one strike.
I don't understand a single word of what you said here
He doesn't predict the entire match from what you shared, just the possibilities of the opponent's next moves.
Every living being has kiOh okay, so do the people Luck fight cannot predict his moves because he doesn't have Ki?
Okay but don't say that Luck doesn't have Ki but then say that all living beings have Ki.Every living being has ki
Yes it can, it depends on how good one RPL is.RPL doesn't make you into Low 6-B suddenly like that. The only reason Luck can keep up with him is speed.
Lotus could keep up with Luck's first strike, he got blitzed in the second.Character who is slower than Luck can still react to him like Vetto and Lotus. Vulcan with speed amp and RPL should have counter against him.
Sure, like anyone with Precog could do. Why would that be different here?Vulcan being able to predict many possibilities of the opponent's basically mean he have control of the matches since every moves Luck throw out would been predicted.
You don't understand, he has ki but doesn't have ki sensingOkay but don't say that Luck doesn't have Ki but then say that all living beings have Ki.
Because there’s a clear scaling chain of people out-predicting each other? Especially when basically seeing through various possibilities through that as well? Can you prove that?Sure, like anyone with Precog could do. Why would that be different here?
Luck RPL apparently weren't good enough, if not then he would have a Low 6-B key now.Yes it can, it depends on how good one RPL is.
Lotus could keep up with Luck's first strike, he got blitzed in the second.
Nerfed Luck was so slow Lotus made fun of him, Luck still blitzed Lotus in the next strike
Vetto nearly blitzed Luck, Luck dodges his next strike with ease and even notices split second openings in his fighting style
They were clearly not slower than him before he adapts
Sure, like anyone with Precog could do. Why would that be different here?
Proving what exactly?Because there’s a clear scaling chain of people out-predicting each other? Especially when basically seeing through various possibilities through that as well? Can you prove that?
The AP gap isn't that overwhelming. He's just 3x Above BC AP calc, which Luck's scales far higher than that. Not only that but the gap is irrelevant due to RPL and Stats ampsAnd with overwhelming AP along with explosion, Luck can literally get gibbed from the first hit. Never mind if he was tagged with more potent stuff
Prove that Luck kept up with people who have Precog that actually matter.Proving what exactly?
I've already proven soNone of them have RPL and speed amp to keep up with him, unlike Vulcan. Unless you can proven that Luck amp is far beyond Vulcan then their speed are the same regardless
That's irrelevant to the point.Actually, let look back some of Luck earliest matches:
- The fight against Lotus have Asta and Noelle assisting him.
- The fight against four priest is a stomp and we don't even know how its happen.
- The fight against Vetto have Maga assisting him and they loss. Later they team up with Black Bull and manage to make him kneel.
- The fight against Team L, its a team battle so he have supporters as well.
How soDoes he not? This entire time I thought that he had precog. This honestly just makes Fuwa's own precog even better in this match
Unless he predicts possibilities of the entire fight and chose the suiting one, it doesn't matterProve that Luck kept up with people who have Precog that actually matter.
Vetto and Asta Precog is considerably small fry to people who considered prediticing 25,000 possibilities on how a fight can goes down in less than a second as small fry at best, and literally useless at worse.
Is there any Precog user that Luck have fought that’s actually better than that?
Literally every single scene I used to show Fuwa's precog scaling.How so
It's not like Midnighter where we will try to get to his desired outcome. It's literally just precognition. Fuwa would be able to predict where Luck would be and how Luck would attack. Far weaker characters have done this.Unless he predicts possibilities of the entire fight and chose the suiting one, it doesn't matter
Then that wouldn't stop Luck from avoiding the attacksLiterally every single scene I used to show Fuwa's precog scaling.
It's not like Midnighter where we will try to get to his desired outcome. It's literally just precognition. Fuwa would be able to predict where Luck would be and how Luck would attack. Far weaker characters have done this.
Vetto was able to predict Asta and Yami as wellThe fact that it's precog and that Z1 fights have people predicting what the other person with predict.
Again, Luck went from being slower to blitzing in one attempt with RPL alone, he still has several stats amps aside from thatAnd the fact that even with his speed amps, Fuwa could still react. Again, still not counting Fuwa's own RPL or speed amps. Just his precog.
Okay, what does that have to do with Luck vs Fuwa. Can Luck fight Vetto even with Vetto's own precog and can he do this without the speed amp?Vetto was able to predict Asta and Yami as well
Okay, Fuwa could still react with the initial speed amp without any problem. Also, Luck would have to speed amp himself and have his RPL kick in before Fuwa hits him once with the stinger.Again, Luck went from being slower to blitzing in one attempt with RPL alone, he still has several stats amps aside from that
Because Luck can dodge attacks from Precog users, who can predict other Precog users.Okay, what does that have to do with Luck vs Fuwa. Can Luck fight Vetto even with Vetto's own precog and can he do this without the speed amp?
He doesn't need to speed amp to dodge that unless Fuwa speed amps himself, and that's assuming the stinger would have his speed increased tooOkay, Fuwa could still react with the initial speed amp without any problem. Also, Luck would have to speed amp himself before Fuwa hits him once with the stinger.
Fuwa has also done that but to a much higher degree due to his scale chain negging the person lower than them.Because Luck can dodge attacks from Precog users, who can predict other Precog users.
Fuwa's precog would allow him to predict where Luck would be. Far weaker precogs could do that.He doesn't need to speed amp to dodge that unless Fuwa speed amps himself, and that's assuming the stinger would have his speed increased too
Whatever this is supposed to meanFuwa has also done that but to a much higher degree due to his scale chain negging the person lower than them.
Look, just because you have precog doesn't mean you'll automatically hit. No matter how good the Precog is, it doesn't increase his speed so he won't be guaranteed to hit unless he speed amps, which Luck can also doFuwa's precog would allow him to predict where Luck would be. Far weaker precogs could do that.
I'm literally just saying that Fuwa's precog is far better than VettoWhatever this is supposed to mean
Other than getting close, how is Luck supposed to beat Fuwa? And if Luck has ranged attacks, Fuwa could easily just dodge them or use his summons to block them.Look, just because you have precog doesn't mean you'll automatically hit. No matter how good the Precog is, it doesn't increase his speed so he won't be guaranteed to hit unless he speed amps, which Luck can also do
Why would "negging the person below them" puts him above vetto in Precog?I'm literally just saying that Fuwa's precog is far better than Vetto
And Luck is skilled at dodging at blank range so that doesn't change anythingOther than getting close, how is Luck supposed to beat Fuwa? And if Luck has ranged attacks, Fuwa could easily just dodge them or use his summons to block them.
In Zero-One, if your precog is strong enough, it would negate weaker people's precog. Literally, you're opponent wont be able to keep up with you because they're predicting many steps ahead of you. Vetto predicted attacks from Asta and Yami, going off of what was said before, their Ki sensing is higher then people who can predict several possibilities. That's literally Shining Arithmetic level, which Fuwa is vastly above.Why would "negging the person below them" puts him above vetto in Precog?
Except for the fact that with his precog, Fuwa can know where Luck would be attacking. I know, just because you have precog doesn't mean you can 100% land a hit, but Fuwa's precog is higher than anything Luck has seen at the time where we're placing this fight.And Luck is skilled at dodging at blank range so that doesn't change anything
Again, you insist on Luck speed amp being way beyond Vulcan but have yet to proven that his amp can outmatch someone else with similar ability. Luck can blitz Vetto but he isn't untouchable, Vetto can still read his Ki then send him down.I've already proven so
That's irrelevant to the point.
*Luck Blitzed Lotus way before Asta came
*I don't see why you're bringing this fight, no one has mentioned it
*What? First off, Vetto never kneeled in this entire arc. Second, that doesn't change the fact that he was able to harm Vetto before Magna comes
*Irrelevant fight
I know its over but sameIt's already pretty obvious my vote goes to Vulcan.