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Or Homura vs Zeed
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Lucemon vs Homura
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Lucemon FRA
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Lucemon should take this for the reasons stated above.
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This is tough
How fast are Lucemon's one shots after being activated? Because if I got it right homura's conceptual power null is the same she used on sayaka which removed her connection to and nulled the LoC after she was already using oktavia (but that might just be because of how that worked)
Even then Homura leads with that togheter with mind hax (she used both of them at the same time) so unless Lucemon starts with on tought OHK she should take this, if he does then inconclusive as it's a who strikes first (and he needs start with them 100% of the times)
How fast are Lucemon's one shots after being activated? Because if I got it right homura's conceptual power null is the same she used on sayaka which removed her connection to and nulled the LoC after she was already using oktavia (but that might just be because of how that worked)
Even then Homura leads with that togheter with mind hax (she used both of them at the same time) so unless Lucemon starts with on tought OHK she should take this, if he does then inconclusive as it's a who strikes first (and he needs start with them 100% of the times)
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@Cal do you still agree with your former position given the new abilities Homura has?
@Glass and Gar, what about Homura's new abilities?
@Glass and Gar, what about Homura's new abilities?
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Probably.
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So is there any reason why the new abilities won't help?
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Doesn't really help if she gets axed before she can use them.
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Ah, they're passive then? Because both of these abilities are thought based from what we know.
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What can she do to kill Lucemon again? The only way she can put him down is by ripping out his concept, which requires touch, which gets her killed, as she's dead before she hits him.
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Well.just leave this here.......
THIS THREAD IS MADNESS!!
THIS THREAD IS MADNESS!!
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She could do conceptual power null, using it to get past his own resistance to power null.
Power Drain was by touch, we don't know the range of ripping out a concept, as that was already happening once she did the power drain. Not to mention it affected the entirety of Madoka's concept, not just the M-Body.
Also, shouldn't she still get the effects of her omnipresence, just not the speed? Essentially it would act more like 3-D omnipresence with Immeasurable speed?
Power Drain was by touch, we don't know the range of ripping out a concept, as that was already happening once she did the power drain. Not to mention it affected the entirety of Madoka's concept, not just the M-Body.
Also, shouldn't she still get the effects of her omnipresence, just not the speed? Essentially it would act more like 3-D omnipresence with Immeasurable speed?
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Conceptual power null?
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@PaChi doesn't he have to summon it first? But that's okay, all it would do is get rid of range issues which would make this even more inconclusive.
@Real Cal, ye, its on her profile now, she can just manipulate the concept of his power instead (Assuming Lucemon's abilities come from something in particular, like data, aura, sin, or something) instead so it wouldn't touch his resistance.
@Real Cal, ye, its on her profile now, she can just manipulate the concept of his power instead (Assuming Lucemon's abilities come from something in particular, like data, aura, sin, or something) instead so it wouldn't touch his resistance.
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When and how'd she do that?
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It was on the upgrade thread lol, you were there.
She does it to Sayaka and Nagisa in the end of Rebellion, as well as Madoka (through cutting the Law of Cycles to prevent it from affecting her and proceeding to mind wipe.)
She does it to Sayaka and Nagisa in the end of Rebellion, as well as Madoka (through cutting the Law of Cycles to prevent it from affecting her and proceeding to mind wipe.)
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I was only there to make jokes ovo
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@pachi says the guy that pretends he's superkirbyman. OvO
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Dang it Cal lol
Still, does it change your opinion in any way?
Still, does it change your opinion in any way?
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But it requires her to touch Lucemon iirc. I doubt Lucemon would let her touch him at all when he's trying to kill her.
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As Lucemon's minor existence is destroyed, the concept that exists in its true form will continue to make Lucemon exist again. You may even have to face two Lucemon at the same time if necessary :v In Savers Another Mission for example there were two manifestations of Lucemon existing at the same time there.
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In Digimon Savers Another Mission and Digimon Story all seven Great Demon Lords were faced and destroyed (In the first game by the DATS members and in the second by the Tamer King). In both cases as long as their concept was not really destroyed, they just came back and faced opponents again.
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I just do not know when this happens or not. There are battles where this is considered, other battles where this is ignored. I just do not know the regulation for Lucemon in this (Or just screw the rules, this is Lucemon :v)
But then, there's a story of someone who tried to destroy the concept of Lucemon and the other Great Demon Lords, I'll tell you about that later.
But then, there's a story of someone who tried to destroy the concept of Lucemon and the other Great Demon Lords, I'll tell you about that later.
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