LPSAD Fiamma Vs Narutoverse

[DontTalk]

I mean he is fighting an entire verse... plus with his speed, eventually he could get them

Given that we talk about massively Hypersonic+ characters eventually is a bit slow. Even if you argue that he evades them by teleporting the whole time you have the problem that if he changes the place of battle he has to resummon the feather of light every time resetting the circle. I do not see how they help him.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Im a bit conflicted, I figured Fiamma could possibly eventually be able to bring down the top tiers in naruto in Base with the controller, considering the teleporting around and using the Strike the ends everything it touches/Reaches everything when swung. and the hax of the grimories, it wasn't 2 out there.

but Using LPSAD seems too cheap.. considering he would easily be above kaguya who is planet level with time and a degree of prep compared to how casually he was implied to be planet level

 

[SomebodyData]

A: You should probely note that in his page, B: Slow by human standards, MHS+, or by Sol standards? Remember what seems slow to him may be fast to them. If they are slow by Naruto standards then yeah I agree he takes on alot of the verse but is taken down by the higher tiers

 

[LazyHunter]

Base Fiamma of the Right lacks the AP to finish off Narutoverse's strongest fighters so he loses to them, though everybody else gets stomped. Also, his Holy Right would run out eventually due to continued use, he's not a character than can fight for long periods of time.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Base Fiamma of the Right lacks the AP to finish off Narutoverse's strongest fighters so he loses to them, though everybody else gets stomped. Also, his Holy Right would run out eventually due to continued use, he's not a character than can fight for long periods of time.

it doesn't run out if he has the index controller remember? he can "win" as many times as he wants to

 

[UncleSpaceman]

• Hagoromo is 4-D, so he is 1 degree of infinity above Fiamma

• Madara has an invisible Limbo clone go up to Fiamma, and soulsuck him

• Kaguya instantly teleports an All-Killing Ashbone to where Fiamma is. All-Killing Ashbone, reduces whatever it touches to ash

• Kaguya instantly BFR's Fiamma with Amenominaka

• Kaguyas Expansive Truthseeker Orb, destroys the space-time of a planet, it doesn't just blow it up. Fiamma can't survive that

• It's 8 Moon Busters & 1 Planet Buster vs 1 Planet Buster...

 

[LordAizenSama]

^this i don't even....... 4-D........Hagoromo?

ok, I'm Changing the rules: Fiamma is in LPSAD form in the same battle conditions as before

 

[The_Everlasting]

I still don't see why an attack being "instant" means "lol you lose". The person still needs to perform the attack/action, even if the effect is instantaneous.

 

[UncleSpaceman]

^this i don't even....... 4-D........Hagoromo?
ok, I'm Changing the rules: Fiamma is in LPSAD form in the same battle conditions as before

Hagoromo said "I am an oddity of time... The stream of time has long flowed past me" ergo, Hagoromo is beyond time. Or am i missing something?

 

[LordAizenSama]

being a sp00ky ghost doesn't make you 4th dimensional......

 

[DontTalk]

Now let me give my opinion to La persona superior a dio.

Lets take a look at the conditions first: Fiamma starts on Star of bethlahem 5000 meters up, Narutoverse Starts unaware.

With that in mind lets talk about an actual scenario. Since the narutoverse starts unaware fiamma actually has a bit of prep time and gets the first move.

Now one could argue that his first move similar to in WWIII is to summon Gabriel.

If he does and allows gabriel to launch a star wiping attack that is it.

But lets say that is outside help and he doesn´t do that.

In that case going further in WWIII strategy I would think La persona superior a dio Fiamma starts with Eurasia busting Telesma attack on narutos planet. That kills everything accept top tiers.

8 Moon Busters & 1 Planet Buster where mentioned, so lets estimate that 9 survive that, maybe a few more. In that case they are dispersed over the whole continent and pretty disorientated, because for them there just came an attack destroying everything from nowhere. Now they have to locate and take out fiamma, and their time for that is as long as it takes fiamma to swing his hand once for each of them, because of auto-aim around the whole planet with the strike that ends everything it touches. I doubt they will be able to do that in the short time. Fiammas strength is his offensive that lets his win every battle instantly, so all the attacks narutoverse has that would effect him would only become important when they get a first strike, to that comes limited knowledge so that only few certain characters would react with the right techniques immediately when in character. Fiammas ruthless style of battle comes in handy here. So in the given conditions I give it to Fiamma.

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

* Hagoromo is 4-D, so he is 1 degree of infinity above Fiamma

Good lord, some high quality trolling there

 

[LazyHunter]

Base Fiamma of the Right lacks the AP to finish off Narutoverse's strongest fighters so he loses to them, though everybody else gets stomped. Also, his Holy Right would run out eventually due to continued use, he's not a character than can fight for long periods of time.

it doesn't run out if he has the index controller remember? he can "win" as many times as he wants to

I had forgotten that, thanks for the reminder. Well, LPSAD Fiamma has the necessary AP to win this, which was the only thing he was lacking before. My vote goes for Fiamma, as his faster reactions, higher power plus attacking people from the Star of Bethlehelm should allow him to make quick work of almost all Naruto characters before they know what's going on. Kaguya will take a little more work but I think once its down to just the two of them Fiamma is more likely to win given his better hax and advantageous position. If he's feeling particularly trollish and summonings are allowed he could just stay in the fortress and summon Gabriel + Cthulhu Mythos stuff from the Necronomicon to fight for him.

@UncleSpaceman

Fiamma has stopped a soulsuck worse than the Rinnegan's, that's not gonna work on him.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Good lord, some high quality trolling there

He's not 4-D but his speed might be unquantifiable.

 

[UncleSpaceman]

* Hagoromo is 4-D, so he is 1 degree of infinity above Fiamma

Good lord, some high quality trolling there

Hagoromo said the stream of time flows past him, IE, he exists outside of time. Or am i missing something?

 

[Hyperception]

Hagoromo said the stream of time flows past him, IE, he exists outside of time. Or am i missing something?

You are missing everything

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

Anyways I'll give it to fiamma given the reasoning stated

 

[UncleSpaceman]

Hmm, after re-watching the explanatioof the 4th dimension, it look's like i was wrong, Hagoromo is not 4-D.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Anyone have anything else to add? or is it conclusive enough for everyone

 

[Oblivion00]

I'm giving this to Fiamma due to the reasons stated about his abilities and due to it being LPSAD Fiamma against the verse.

 

[ZERO7772]

Fimma with LPSAD win this But not base fimma

 

[Thebluedash]

^^^^^^ Pretty much what he said