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I disagree with this thread because it's majorly downplaying DB cosmology.
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You think 5D DB is downplay? I hope that’s a joke.I disagree with this thread because it's majorly downplaying DB cosmology.
this really sounds like an excuse at this point, of course, if people disagree, it is because they hate db being strong, not because they genuinely think your point is not right, not because they just disagree with the point, come onIt has always been like that with DB, I have seen many comments with people who just hate DB being strong and just disagree, nothing we can do.
all that you just said applies to all and every multiverse there is with a space between them, again, i think you are failing to see that being 5D was never into question, it is, like how every space between low 2-C structures is, but that is not relevant, dwarfing 100 or so low 2-C structures while being 5D is not enough for low 1-C, qualitative superiority needs more than that, far more, infinitely far moreAnyways, the point is that this space has to be 5d because it contains these constructs in the same physical space at while at the same time not being able to intersect. I have seen the points that it is a insignificant interval of space when I fail to see why, it surrounds all the 12 universes and has the size to hold even more than that, while from a very large scope of the neutral zone, any universes are not seen. It is a very large space. Mind you the macrocosms themselves still have 6 to 7 universal spacetimes with there factually being a space between even those universes, which is still dwarfed by the neutral zone.
just like how destroying a non universal space time is not low 2-C, destroying a non qualitative superior 5D space is not low 1-CIt makes virtually no sense for this to be a bigger 4d space, or for characters that destroy this space in its entirety to remain at 2-C, not even factoring in the larger timeline that contains all of it
Dragon Ball's cosmology is blatantly High 1-A. This thread is indeed, nothing but blatant downplay.You think 5D DB is downplay? I hope that’s a joke.
basedDragon Ball's cosmology is blatantly High 1-A. This thread is indeed, nothing but blatant downplay.
Good, I don't like it when people disagree with my factual opinions.based
Dragon Ball's cosmology is blatantly High 1-A. This thread is indeed, nothing but blatant downplay.
*High 0 +Dragon Ball's cosmology is blatantly High 1-A. This thread is indeed, nothing but blatant downplay.
what do you meanI disagree with this thread because it's majorly downplaying DB cosmology.
I guess you didn't read the comment above mine which is what I was addressing, I said it has always been a thing on dragon ball. For both sides, so stop saying I'm using this as an excuse when I wasn't eve particular referring to this thread. Dropping this, its derailment.this really sounds like an excuse at this point, of course, if people disagree, it is because they hate db being strong, not because they genuinely think your point is not right, not because they just disagree with the point, come on
The fact that it is a large space that has an higher spatially speaks for itself, and no matter how far a timeline extends, it won't intersect with the other ones. It still makes no sense to be 2-C lmao.all that you just said applies to all and every multiverse there is with a space between them, again, i think you are failing to see that being 5D was never into question, it is, like how every space between low 2-C structures is, but that is not relevant, dwarfing 100 or so low 2-C structures while being 5D is not enough for low 1-C, qualitative superiority needs more than that, far more, infinitely far more
That isn't even the same thing, and aren't real coordinate spaces said to be infinitely larger because no matter how far a lower dimension extends, it won't gain an extra spatial direction? That is why i proposed "possibly low 1-C" . Keeping the ratings would mean that we still consider the neutral space 4d which can't be the case.just like how destroying a non universal space time is not low 2-C, destroying a non qualitative superior 5D space is not low 1-C
I did read, my comment goes both ways, we can stopI guess you didn't read the comment above mine which is what I was addressing, I said it has always been a thing on dragon ball. For both sides, so stop saying I'm using this as an excuse when I wasn't eve particular referring to this thread. Dropping this, its derailment.
Define "large" and "higher spatially", because for the size needed for low 1-C is far, far "larger" then what you presentedThe fact that it is a large space that has an higher spatially speaks for itself
Yes it does, that is exactly what every multiverse doesand no matter how far a timeline extends, it won't intersect with the other ones. It still makes no sense to be 2-C lmao.
Yes it isThat isn't even the same thing
no, not in this wiki at least, there is such things like limited 4D for example, why do you think that non universal space times are not low 2-Cand aren't real coordinate spaces said to be infinitely larger because no matter how far a lower dimension extends, it won't gain an extra spatial direction?
No, it wouls mean we trear it like how we treat every space separating space times, limited, non quantifiable 5DThat is why i proposed "possibly low 1-C" . Keeping the ratings would mean that we still consider the neutral space 4d which can't be the case.
nah, it would only need to be 5D, qualitative superiority is not neededIt should be qualitatively superior by default if it holds these non interactable 4d planes anyway.
You would need to change the standards themselves with this argumentationThe way stacking 2d squares infinitely won't get you a 3d cube, or how extending a 2d cube infinitely will still be technically infinitely smaller in one direction from a 3d object or plane. So these 4d spaces will still be infinitely smaller for lacking that extra axis that the neutral space has. Which is why they are parallels in the first place.
Bigger isn't superior????, also you don't need qualitative superior to get to higher tierThat doesn’t seem like qualitative superiority to me, only that its bigger, which is a default anyway
for tier 1 you need qualitative superiorityBigger isn't superior????, also you don't need qualitative superior to get to higher tier
not necessarily, also, there are levels to being superiorBigger isn't superior????
Bigger is superior in sizenot necessarily, also, there are levels to being superior
Neutral on neutral space.
Could the overarching Timeline which contains all of this + more not qualify as an uncountably larger structure and be Low 1-C, even if this itself is not enough?
I have to agreeOkay.
Real talk; Stop shitposting on the CRT, stop just throwing random statements like "I think we do that thing" and giving an opinion based on that assumption. Just get knowledgeable staff, namely DT, Ultima and Executor based on what the thread has presented.
Don't reach a conclusion until some of these three have given their inputs on the matter, pretty much everyone here has not even a tenth of the capability to judge the matter at hand
What you can't have an opinion on is how Tier 1 and extra-dimensional stuff works. Unless you research the subject.The wiki can’t function solely based on the opinions of 3 people who have actual lives and are required on almost every thread.
and it’s very insulting to insinuate not everyone can have an opinion on dragon ball of all things
bro's gate keeping battleboarding....What you can't have an opinion on is how Tier 1 and extra-dimensional stuff works. Unless you research the subject.
Are you knowledgeable?
Should we take everyone's opinions into account when they, ultimately, don't truly know what they're talking about?
No.
I'll not even comment on that strawman, trying to say I'm stopping people from commenting on Dragon Ball itself, when I'm obviously talking about the conditions of parallelism
Stop using Ultima's statement that came from a Low 1-C kingdom hearts threadI'll try to summarize what Ultima has argued;
Ultima's argument correctly highlights that for two line segments to be parallel in a two-dimensional space (like a plane), they must remain equidistant and not intersect regardless of how far they are extended. Similarly, for two planes to be parallel in three-dimensional space, they must not intersect and remain equidistant.
When generalizing this idea to higher dimensions, such as 4-D spacetime, the argument proposes that spacetimes (which are four-dimensional objects) would need to be displaced over a five-dimensional region to be considered parallel. This aligns with the concept that higher-dimensional objects require additional dimensions to satisfy the conditions of parallelism.
We know for a fact each of the 12 universes are parallel to one another, this is shown to us; Neutral Space has to be a five-dimensional region by default;
Strawmanning, lying, wowbro's gate keeping battleboarding....
The barrier to entry isn't a degree in physics, stop acting like it is.
Dimensional Parallelism is not a concept born in Kingdom Hearts, I'm sorry to inform youStop using Ultima's statement that came from a Low 1-C kingdom hearts thread
they have completely different contexts
the same logic still applies dudeStop using Ultima's statement that came from a Low 1-C kingdom hearts thread
they have completely different contexts
noIs this not the same as the last time Low 1-C for DBS was attempted?
what happenedI was going to ignore it but someone said I was insulted here (f--ing liar, she insulted us all and not me).
This is referring to the sometimes my friend that texted me on discord and said I was insulted here.someone said I was insulted here (f--ing liar, she insulted us all and not me).
No blood for the blood god?This is referring to the sometimes my friend that texted me on discord and said I was insulted here.
And it is a joke, so everyone should relax.