Threemagi
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continuing my Low 1-A thread train....
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Endless Hierarchies Above Manifold of Manifolds
Endless hierarchies of life and mind. Which means, even if it just contains infinite dimensional multiverse (as opposed to its true nature of being able to contain all logically possible multiverse which would include Outerverses) it'd still mean there's infinite hierarchies above infinite dimensions.
Taking Manifold's nature into equation, meaning each Manifold already contains all logically possibly multiverses. And that Manifold is just one thread of collection of infinite Manifolds (collections of collections of multiverses) which have infinite hierarchies above them.
Each hierarchy itself possibly have infinite recursions. And there are infinite amount of hierarchies even if you already transcended one hierachy.
Manifold of Manifolds
A Manifold (collection of universes) might be one thread to great tapestry of Manifold of Manifolds. A literal drop in an ocean. That's how vast Manifold of Manifolds is.
Manifold : Collection of Infinite Universes
A subset within a Manifold is infinite in itself.
Again, a Manifold contains infinite universes. All logically possible universes must exist. Supporting statement to the 'Essence of Manifold' part that 'as long as its logically possible, it must exist'.
Misc.
Most Primal Source of Manifold : Essence or Underlying of Manifold
How is Manifold created? Is it purely physical Multiverse? Does it have any metaphysical component that's superior to physical multiverse? Well, yes, Manifold is governed by deeper source than physical laws. Namely, mathematics and logic, both are underlyings of reality on Manifoldverse.
Its here explicitly said that complexity itself did not originate or created from most fundamental of physical laws. But all is originating from even deeper and more primal source, that is mathematical logic that underlay all things.
An example : how the existence of one mathematical structure caused the existence of physical structures like stars. And since said mathematical structure existed everywhere, (all over Manifoldverse) so can complexity like Life exist all over the Manifold of Manifolds because it would be consequence of mathematical strucures which presided it.
In other words, mathematical concepts take the role of 'base', or probably 'Archetype'. Everything is based on them. Physical existences rely on them but mathematical concepts don't rely on physical existences.
For example : Theory of Everything regarding Hilbert Space is 'Archetype' (governing concept) of infinite dimensional multiverse. Any non-contradictive descriptions of any kind of Outerverses are 'Archetypes' (governing concept) of Outerverses in question.
But other logical mathematical concepts, which covers any multiverse theory invented by man should be able to be covered by a Manifold.
My proposal
As usual. Low 1-A upgrade for anyone that scales to the cosmology.
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Endless Hierarchies Above Manifold of Manifolds
| "A manifold of manifolds." "And that's why there is a further recursion of structure, no end to the hierarchies of life and mind, which—" Mane held up her hands. |
Taking Manifold's nature into equation, meaning each Manifold already contains all logically possibly multiverses. And that Manifold is just one thread of collection of infinite Manifolds (collections of collections of multiverses) which have infinite hierarchies above them.
Each hierarchy itself possibly have infinite recursions. And there are infinite amount of hierarchies even if you already transcended one hierachy.
Manifold of Manifolds
| "Of course," Babo said, "She may actually be an expression of the manifold itself — or perhaps the manifold itself, the greater structure of reality strands, is itself self-referential, in some sense conscious. Or maybe the manifold is just one thread in a greater tapestry - " "A manifold of manifolds." |
Manifold : Collection of Infinite Universes
| Anna danced, whirled, her dress lifting; and Maura is comfortably aware of the soldier's eyes. "There are infinite number of possible universes in the manifold," Anna said. "Of those only a subset - nevertheless infinite itself - are capable of supporting self-aware substructures. And those universes are characterized by a flow of time, which is created by unfolding cosmic structure. Gravity is the key. " |
| "We don't know how they do it. But they changed the rules, "Nemoto said. Emma said hesitantly, "So they found a way to create a lot more universes." Manekato said, "We believe the Old Ones created, not just a multiplicity of daughter universes, but an infinite number ." The bulky Daemon studied Emma's face, seeking understanding. "Infinity is significant, you see," Nemoto said, too rapidly. "There is, umm, a qualitative difference between a large number, however large, and infinity. In the infinite manifold, in that infinite ensemble, all logically possible universes must exist. And therefore all logically possible destinies must unfold. Everything that is possible will happen, somewhere out there. They are created a grand stage, you see, Emma: a stage for endless possibilities of life and mind. " . |
Misc.
Most Primal Source of Manifold : Essence or Underlying of Manifold
How is Manifold created? Is it purely physical Multiverse? Does it have any metaphysical component that's superior to physical multiverse? Well, yes, Manifold is governed by deeper source than physical laws. Namely, mathematics and logic, both are underlyings of reality on Manifoldverse.
| "Cassiopeia had spent time trying to teach him about a phenomenon just a little beyond his own horizon — as chaos theory might have been to an engineer of, say, the 1950s. It was something to do with the emergence of complexity. The Gaijin seemed able to see how complexity, even life, naturally emerged from the simplest of beginnings: not fundamental physical laws, but something even deeper than that — as far as he could make out, the essential mathematical logic that underlay all things. |
| Human scientists had a glimmering of this. His own DNA somehow contained, in its few billion bases, enough information to generate a brain of three trillion connections… But for the Gaijin this principle went farther. It was like being given a table of prime numbers and being able to deduce atoms and stars and people as a necessary consequence of the existence of the primes. And since prime numbers, of course, existed everywhere, it followed there was life and people, humans and Gaijin, everywhere there could be. Life sprouting everywhere, like weeds in the cracks of a pavement. It was a remarkable, chilling thought. |
In other words, mathematical concepts take the role of 'base', or probably 'Archetype'. Everything is based on them. Physical existences rely on them but mathematical concepts don't rely on physical existences.
For example : Theory of Everything regarding Hilbert Space is 'Archetype' (governing concept) of infinite dimensional multiverse. Any non-contradictive descriptions of any kind of Outerverses are 'Archetypes' (governing concept) of Outerverses in question.
| Anna's face worked. "They are considering constraints on the ultimate manifold." Maura suspected that she was going to struggle with the rest of this conversation. "The manifold of what?" "Universes. It is of course a truism that all logically possible universes must exist. The universe, this universe, is described - umm, that's the wrong word - by a formal system. Mathematics. A system of mathematics." Maura frowned. "You mean a Theory of Everything?" Anna waved a hand, as if that were utterly trivial, and her beautiful wings rustled. "But there are many formal systems. Some of them are less rich, some more. But each formal system is logically consistent internally, describes a possible universe, which therefore exists." |
My proposal
As usual. Low 1-A upgrade for anyone that scales to the cosmology.
