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Lille Barro vs. Jugram Haschwalth

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Since Uryu got decimated in the Lille vs Uryu thread,lets see how lille compares to someone who also Dominated uryu.

Conditions

-Both starts at base

-This is The Balance Jugram

-Speed Equalized

-Fight takes place in Karakura Tow

-Bloodlusted

Jugram haschwalth by animefanno1-d8zukax
Lille
 
Well their both powerful as hell, that's for sure.

That said, I think Lille has a higher chance f sniping him with the X Axis before Jugram can pull out any of his stuff.

Lille for now.
 
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For a more interesting outcome,it dosen't really give him anything else other than precog and future sight.

Yeah, and power absorption for every power he sees, and the ability to swap futures on a whim.
 
Lightbuster30 said:
Yeah, and power absorption for every power he sees, and the ability to swap futures on a whim.
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Yhwach's Almighty=/=Jugram's Almighty

The only thing his almighty gives him is future sight and nothing else (heck even his future sight is weak compared to yhwach's since he cant see every possible future)
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
Yhwach's Almighty=/=Jugram's Almighty

The only thing his almighty gives him is future sight and nothing else (heck even his future sight is weak compared to yhwach's since he cant see every possible future)
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Where was this mentioned ? I don't remember anything like that.
 
Almighty jugo couldnt even finish off Uryu.

Boi. Make it Balance Jugram.
 
^They switch powers at night. Yhwh gets the Balance while Jugo gets the Almighty.

"God like you" and the chapters right before "friend" series are probably what you want.
 
Dr.Fix said:
^They switch powers at night. Yhwh gets the Balance while Jugo gets the Almighty.
"God like you" and the chapters right before "friend" series are probably what you want.
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Ah alright

well we are using "Balance" Jugram here then.
 
Balance Jugram vs Base Lille:

Both know the other's abilities, but Lille is not allowed to fully use his power and Jugram most likely knows this.

Jugram can reverse any lethal damage done to him to Lille, and base lille doesnt have rege.

And there is the fact that Jugram is actually intelligent. Tho Lille in character wouldnt fight Jugram for the sole fact that he doesnt fight losing battles.

Voting Jugram.
 
Yomi Schwarz said:
Take not that this is also Bloodlusted and lille can use his other forms if he needs it
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Oh, that's how Lille can access his other forms, by needing it. Which translates to needing to activate X-The Axis three times in a row a single battle. However, Jugram also knows this and I doubt he'd let that happen as The balance bounces the damage to Lille.

If by chance Lille was intangible or in chicken form I can see the balance nulling it because: Your good fortune allowed you to avoid my attack, therefore now you have misfortune and suffer x4 damage, or something like that.

The balance is very OP.
 
Why do you guys think Lille would just avoid attacks and wouldn't attack Jugram ?

Lille can easily break Fruend Shield which redirects all the damage , with X-Axis. And Lille can kill him after he broke that shield.

And Bloodlusted Lille just spams Trumpet and this is not something Jugram takes on and survives. He and his shield gets destroyed.

Even if Jugram can damage Lille by saying "Your good fortune allowed you to avoid my attacks , therefore now you have misfortune and suffer damage". This is not enough to kill Lille who has regenerated from being decapitated. He couldn't even kill Uryuu who damaged Jugram and took even much more misfortune because he dealt damage to Jugram and has no Regenerationn. I don't see how Lille loses here.

Lille wins.
 
"Lille can easily break Fruend Shield which redirects all the damage"

There is literally zero reason to assume he can, tho.

If you blast a hole in Jugram or the Shield, that hole will be redirected to Lille. And you are assuming this guy goes chicken from the get-go? Also, Lille can't take having... half? of his body destroyed, he needs to get a trumpet redirected and him to die.
 
This is like the "Can meliodas redirect The Explode or will The Explode transmute meliodas's blade into a bomb" argument

I really dont think anything can come out of this argument tbh but feel free to make a peaceful conclusion
 
No, no. Jugram/The Shield takes the damage and then the damage gets redirected at Lille. It's just like Hoffung's stuff but better. Also we know there is a limit to how much damage lille can take in Chicken form.
 
PaChi2 said:
No, no. Jugram/The Shield takes the damage and then the damage gets redirected at Lille. It's just like Hoffung's stuff but better. Also we know there is a limit to how much damage lille can take in Chicken form.
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will that be enough to tax him? i mean lille has Low-High regen and he wont just snipe carelessly all the time.
 
The problem with Lille's Low-High regen is that after regenerating from a grave wound he turns into a weakened version of himself. He cannot spam that level of regen.
 
PaChi2 said:
No, no. Jugram/The Shield takes the damage and then the damage gets redirected at Lille. It's just like Hoffung's stuff but better. Also we know there is a limit to how much damage lille can take in Chicken form.
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What?
 
Upon seeing that Shunsui has appeared behind Nanao, Lille calls him pathetic for hiding behind his own subordinate before firing "Trompete which erases a large portion of the city below with its blast. However, Lille suddenly has a vertical portion of his body erased and sees that Nanao has reflected the power of the blast back at him with Shinken Hakkyōken. Calling the idea of reflecting the power of a god a grave sin, Lille disintegrates into energy shards, which rain down upon Seireitei. Multiple copies of Lille are spawned from the shards, with one of them bitterly complaining that his halo is gone.

If he takes enough damage he goes to that halo-less form, which Jugram should have no problem killing.
 
PaChi2 said:
The problem with Lille's Low-High regen is that after regenerating from a grave wound he turns into a weakened version of himself. He cannot spam that level of regen.
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This is because he lost his halo. Not from the damage that was dealt to him but to halo. And Jugram's Shield can be broken. It broke a little when it consumed the damage that is dealt to Jugram and then redirected it to Uryu. It is not passive. And Lille can just break it and suffers no damage because shield will be broken.
 
And assuming that the halo thing didnt have to do with having received damage is just faulty as its literally what happens prior to that.
 
PaChi2 said:
Upon seeing that Shunsui has appeared behind Nanao, Lille calls him pathetic for hiding behind his own subordinate before firing "Trompete which erases a large portion of the city below with its blast. However, Lille suddenly has a vertical portion of his body erased and sees that Nanao has reflected the power of the blast back at him with Shinken Hakkyōken. Calling the idea of reflecting the power of a god a grave sin, Lille disintegrates into energy shards, which rain down upon Seireitei. Multiple copies of Lille are spawned from the shards, with one of them bitterly complaining that his halo is gone.
If he takes enough damage he goes to that halo-less form, which Jugram should have no problem killing.
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Thats not what happened Shinken Hakkyōken reflects the power of a god and disperses it into 8 directions thus his weakned forms in addtion to loss of his halo. This wasnt from taking too much damage.
 
Also i think its more accurate to say Lille lost his godhood due to nanao's zanpakuto that "dispersed his godhood" thus rendering him weak and turned him into the flamingo state he's at right now

not cause of "too much damage"
 
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