Amexim said:
Most of me forgot what my own point even was, so bare with me on the specifics. Often times I see people using light bending as proof that the attack ISN'T light, and that it's enough to disprove its assumed speed on that front alone, irrelevant to the other pieces of evidence. I think that's what people tried to make happen with Solar Beam, which is stated and acts like light pretty consistently. They argue that because light can be bended by the user, it's not light no matter what. Because light can be made to explode, it isn't light no matter what. I think that if they've done attacks that were considered to be real light as they were then the bending shouldn't count against it?
As said, it depends on the amount of evidence on each side.
If it has very strong evidence of being actual light, it might be possible to overlook a piece of evidence of it not necessarily being lightspeed in favor of that.
Still, one needs more than the basic evidence for it being light then.
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
This point here would only apply to characters who's light manipulation isnt being considered to being real light in the first place, which is not what my thread is tackling here. There's a distinct difference between saying a non-real light technique being manipulated isnt light speed and an actual real light technique being manipulated isnt light speed, the latter of which I and multiple others don't immediately agree with currently.
There is no difference between a real light technique that isn't lightspeed and a non-real light technique. Any light that isn't lightspeed is supernatural non-real light, as real light is always lightspeed.
That aside, I disagree. The argument was that their attacks should be considered lightspeed, because they have demonstrated the capability of using lightspeed light. However, that isn't evident at all.
Question:
if the lights come from a credible source of light (like the sun) or/and confirmed to be light itself, if someone can absorb it and use this as attack, why the one who make those feats's attacks isn't lightspeed like real light? for a general case: If a light come from a real light source is this lightspeed even if this light bend?
What you are reffering to would in detail be: A supernatural power is used to gather light, temporarily stores that in form is some supernatural power (like mana) and then uses a spell to convert that supernatural power back to light. At that point the connection between what the light originally came from and the light that is fired as attack is basically completly lost, as it is in no way the same light anymore.
Given, if we aren't talking about all that stuff being done via supernatural means it is a different story, but that basically never happens. (and would then fall under the "realistic light source" category of things)
