Lies of P Discussion Thread

[Chritin]

No the nameless one.

Ahh alrighty I’ll take a look. Two things I noticed by the way

1. I took rough estimates on Romeo surviving the king of puppets exploding, I got around 8-C so at least there’s something consistent there

2. P may scale to the earthquakes and such that the machine caused, since Gepetto mentions that P can use the vast amount of Ergo collected to become a real boy. How accurate that is however remains to be seen I suppose.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Ahh alrighty I’ll take a look. Two things I noticed by the way

1. I took rough estimates on Romeo surviving the king of puppets exploding, I got around 8-C so at least there’s something consistent there

2. P may scale to the earthquakes and such that the machine caused, since Gepetto mentions that P can use the vast amount of Ergo collected to become a real boy. How accurate that is however remains to be seen I suppose.

But can he use it ot attack?

Also the machine of Simon dispersed some clouds. No idea how much help that is.

 

[Chritin]

But can he use it ot attack?

Having Ergo is basically like having Extra power. It’s the same reason as to why Gael is one of the strongest characters in the Dark Souks series since he absorbed basically all of the other portions of the dark soul into himself. In AP’s case it is similar, with him gaining a vast amount of Ergo.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Having Ergo is basically like having Extra power. It’s the same reason as to why Gael is one of the strongest characters in the Dark Souks series since he absorbed basically all of the other portions of the dark soul into himself. In AP’s case it is similar, with him gaining a vast amount of Ergo.

Yes but with no statement he is just unquantible stronger. For reference I do believe they are actually quite high. Just no idea how high.

 

[Armorchompy]

P be like: I'm the 15th letter in the alphabet (he's lying)

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

P be like: I'm the 15th letter in the alphabet (he's lying)

Golden lie elongates.

Nice to see you in this desolate place that is colder than Gepetto's corpse.

 

[Armorchompy]

i really just wanted to post that honestly i don't have anything else to say, game looks cool tho

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

i really just wanted to post that honestly i don't have anything else to say, game looks cool tho

It has really clicked with me. I do watch it rather than play it but I really like what they did with it. For me it's below Elden ring and DS3 in viewer enjoyment.

 

[Tonygameman]

Bumps of P.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I've been getting into Lies of P. Some of the things have gone over my head, but I do know that Ergo can manipulate reality, memories, and even time

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I've been getting into Lies of P. Some of the things have gone over my head, but I do know that Ergo can manipulate reality, memories, and even time

Ergo (Έργο) voted for best power system and Sophia for best Waifu. Both normal and doll Sophia are.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Not sure what Laxasia did, but she raised her sword in the air and created a thunderstorm. Or maybe that was the Ergo machine...

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Not sure what Laxasia did, but she raised her sword in the air and created a thunderstorm. Or maybe that was the Ergo machine...

She for sure can manipulate it. She can also create localized one anyway so Ergo should control the weather. Also enhance physical stats and resurrection like with victor.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

So if P absorbs Sophia's Ergo, doesn't that mean he would get her powers?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Played the game
I can help with some calcs
I can see the god tiers being High 7-A with MHS+, but in LS I can only see Class K feats

 

[AnAverageUsername]

So if P absorbs Sophia's Ergo, doesn't that mean he would get her powers?

Okay yeah, straight up said by Manus that Sophia was rewinding time every time P died. So when P absorbs her Ergo and still comes back after dying, he should get time manipulation, yeah?

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Yeah! And there is no reason for that to not be the case, because he returns her ergo after the game which would make him lose his powers. So P at the time of the match with Gepetto should have time manipulation. Problem is, does he need a device to do it?

Played the game
I can help with some calcs
I can see the god tiers being High 7-A with MHS+, but in LS I can only see Class K feats

Get them to continent at least.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Dawg what was Geppetto smoking making this Nameless Puppet, I swear he's stronger than Manus

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Manus be like I am a god. Gepetto be like ok gimme some scraps. He pulled the DR. Gero special.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Beat the game and got the true ending, my thoughts:

The characters are by far the best part of the game, and the story is great as well. Gameplay is serviceable as a souls game, but enemy placements and some of the bosses are more on the meh side

In terms of scaling: Manus, P, and the Nameless Puppet are on top, but the scaling would probably go in that order as well. P beats God Manus, and the Nameless Puppet would have killed P if not for Geppetto's interference.

Which like, what was Geppetto cooking with the Nameless Puppet. Cause it looks so crude, and going by the achievements it is indeed the first actual puppet created. So like, how is it this powerful.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Gepetto probably scaled down his later puppets than up and kept this one for himself. But also there is the possibility this was carlo's body or something.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Gepetto probably scaled down his later puppets than up and kept this one for himself. But also there is the possibility this was carlo's body or something.

I mean apparently it was so efficient that it just destroyed any Ergo it held right?

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I mean apparently it was so efficient that it just destroyed any Ergo it held right?

What do you mean by that?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

What do you mean by that?

"Ergo obtained from the Nameless Puppet. It is packed with immense power.
A treasure hunter may want this rare Ergo.
The nameless puppet was the first puppet made by the old man that was mounted with a P-Organ.
Its Ergo efficiency was not just unremarkable, it was destructive; thus the nameless puppet was not chosen for the boy's body and sealed away."

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

So did that mean it couldn't use it's ergo properly?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

So did that mean it couldn't use it's ergo properly?

Probably? By "not chosen for the boy's body", I'm guessing it's in reference to Carlo's Ergo, which P would get instead, since NP's ergo efficiency would maybe destroy it?

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I'm still puzzled in who would become Carlo. Would P become? Would it be another puppet that somehow has Carlo's memories?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I'm still puzzled in who would become Carlo. Would P become? Would it be another puppet that somehow has Carlo's memories?

Obviously not P, the point was using him as a Guinea Pig so that his P-Organ could be used to bring Carlo back. Ripped out and all. But, then Geppetto put it into the NP box, and then a more normal looking NP comes out. Maybe the ergo collected over P's journey transfigured the NP's body to that of Carlo's.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

But after P cut Nameless Puppet's head off Gepetto still acted like he needed the heart so the NP couldn't have been Carlo.
Maybe a third puppet?

 

[Armorchompy]

it's so funny that they called them P organs ngl

 

[AnAverageUsername]

But after P cut Nameless Puppet's head off Gepetto still acted like he needed the heart so the NP couldn't have been Carlo.

Well not entirely, he needed P's heart for the transplant to bring Carlo back. If the NP was going to destroy it with a clean stab, then it's not like it could have it transplanted into itself.

Plus, the NP is the only puppet enemy to spew real blood, not that oil stuff. It's body also has real bones inside its torso, as evident by the emaciated ribs. It could very well be likely that Carlo's rotting body was Frankenstein'd into a puppet, and once P's own heart which has accumulated a vast amount of Ergo was placed inside, it would make the NP Carlo again. Maybe. Because we do know that along side reality warping and memory manipulaton, Ergo can change the bodies of people.

Maybe a third puppet?

How many puppets are in that box god damn

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Gepetto be like: "This bad boy can fit so much inside" Proceeds to hit the box

Well not entirely, he needed P's heart for the transplant to bring Carlo back. If the NP was going to destroy it with a clean stab, then it's not like it could have it transplanted into itself.

Plus, the NP is the only puppet enemy to spew real blood, not that oil stuff. It's body also has real bones inside its torso, as evident by the emaciated ribs. It could very well be likely that Carlo's rotting body was Frankenstein'd into a puppet, and once P's own heart which has accumulated a vast amount of Ergo was placed inside, it would make the NP Carlo again. Maybe. Because we do know that along side reality warping and memory manipulaton, Ergo can change the bodies of people.

How many puppets are in that box god damn

And that box still can't hold the love for puppet Sophia. Though theoretically how old is Sophia??

Also yeah. Nameless Pupper does look like a human cadaver. Which is why I thought of that initially. But I'm like damn did it have such a huge glow up and even Gepetto isn't that mad right? RIGHT?

Gameplay is serviceable as a souls game, but enemy placements and some of the bosses are more on the meh side

Also about that what do you mean? I have only seen the game through streams, but they seemed quite good. The huge boy puppet and the fat clown puppet can rust in hell though.

 

[Chritin]

So I haven’t really caught up with a lot of the scaling recently. What’s the arguments for general feats rn?

 

[LightMoonWizard]

Shouldn't stalkers in general be like at least peak human?

 

[LightMoonWizard]

Yeah! And there is no reason for that to not be the case, because he returns her ergo after the game which would make him lose his powers. So P at the time of the match with Gepetto should have time manipulation. Problem is, does he need a device to do it?

IIRC Sohpia gave P her powers when he arrived at the alchemist's island which was before P took her ergo. So i don't think he nesscearily lost it when he returened the ergo to sophia's puppet. And P already has a time manipulation device with him( the one sophia gave in the early game).

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Laxasia--> Malenia

 

[Chritin]

Laxasia--> Malenia

Ehhhh. Malenia is more refined and all around difficult, while Laxasia I can bitch in phase one and then get annihilated IMMEDIATELY in phase 2. I barely know how to fight her 2nd, let alone block a single attack besides her lightning bolt throws.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Ehhhh. Malenia is more refined and all around difficult, while Laxasia I can bitch in phase one and then get annihilated IMMEDIATELY in phase 2. I barely know how to fight her 2nd, let alone block a single attack besides her lightning bolt throws.

Learn perfect parry

Go buck wild with stagger boost grinder

 

[Chritin]

Learn perfect parry

Go buck wild with stagger boost grinder

How do you think I beat her in the first place? That’s literally all I’ve done the 3 times I’ve fought her lol, although I end up doing mostly just dodges in phase 2 since I’ve never had the will to learn the phase 2 block timing lol.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

How do you think I beat her in the first place? That’s literally all I’ve done the 3 times I’ve fought her lol, although I end up doing mostly just dodges in phase 2 since I’ve never had the will to learn the phase 2 block timing lol.

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