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Leivinia Birdway and Fräulein Kreutune vs SCP-682
Location: Tokyo
Method of Victory: Death
Prep time: None
In character.
Location: Tokyo
Method of Victory: Death
Prep time: None
In character.
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Leivinia Birdway and Fräulein Kreutune vs SCP-682
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birdway dies and kreutune gets killed without a chance to do anything against SCP,
on the other hand neither kreutune or SCP die so it is a draw...
on the other hand neither kreutune or SCP die so it is a draw...
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The indestructible building has a very clearly stated mechanic, people who can adapt should be able to break. The only reason Accel's "demonic strike" didn't shatter it was because you can't brute force it.
But eating an AIM field is nothing new in To Aru, really. Lots of characters have been shown to absorb them and then get godstomped later on. Examples: Misaka vs Aim Burst, Kazakiri vs Gabriel, Will of Misaka vs Othinus (they didn't fight but implied). It's not indicative of ability at all.
Aleister made a counter to strange beings, not a counter to adapters. Besides, Noukan was killed before he got a good showing outside of killing a super weakened High Priest.
But eating an AIM field is nothing new in To Aru, really. Lots of characters have been shown to absorb them and then get godstomped later on. Examples: Misaka vs Aim Burst, Kazakiri vs Gabriel, Will of Misaka vs Othinus (they didn't fight but implied). It's not indicative of ability at all.
Aleister made a counter to strange beings, not a counter to adapters. Besides, Noukan was killed before he got a good showing outside of killing a super weakened High Priest.
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Misaka vs Aim Burst
Had to be weakened though beforehand by cutting off all the espers who were pretty weak really lol.
Kazakiri vs Gabriel
Gabriel is an Angel lol, she could potentially be much more powerful in "Heaven" or her realm. She's only weaker in human realm because she 'fell".
Will of Misaka vs Othinus
Not even a fight lol. Are you saying Othinius can't beat this guy?
Noukan was killed before he got a good showing outside of killing a super weakened High Priest
Wow, I would never have expected spoilers for the last book that I've haven't read yet new testament 14.
Didn't Kretune casually down planes by literally throwing her flesh/blood at it though?
Besides, how can you tell that SCP requires more hax to kill than Kretune? It says possibly universal, but not definitely.
Had to be weakened though beforehand by cutting off all the espers who were pretty weak really lol.
Kazakiri vs Gabriel
Gabriel is an Angel lol, she could potentially be much more powerful in "Heaven" or her realm. She's only weaker in human realm because she 'fell".
Will of Misaka vs Othinus
Not even a fight lol. Are you saying Othinius can't beat this guy?
Noukan was killed before he got a good showing outside of killing a super weakened High Priest
Wow, I would never have expected spoilers for the last book that I've haven't read yet new testament 14.
Didn't Kretune casually down planes by literally throwing her flesh/blood at it though?
Besides, how can you tell that SCP requires more hax to kill than Kretune? It says possibly universal, but not definitely.
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@Aurasuke High Priest is killed in NT13, not 14.
Also, i'd say this is inconclusive. Birdway and Kreutune have no way of putting 682 down for good, and i don't think it can kill Kreutune. Birdway's reactions are fast enough to put up her barriers before she gets hit, so she isn't going down either. She can also just dodge 682 by boosting her speed to Supersonic.
Also, i'd say this is inconclusive. Birdway and Kreutune have no way of putting 682 down for good, and i don't think it can kill Kreutune. Birdway's reactions are fast enough to put up her barriers before she gets hit, so she isn't going down either. She can also just dodge 682 by boosting her speed to Supersonic.
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@Aurasuke High Priest is killed in NT13, not 14.
No, actually Noukan did survive then lol. I thought you said that he died, but he was actually a okay after going at Mach 20 (yeah no idea how, maybe aleister's spell or something lol).
BTW is that based off the assumption that he's like universe level maybe?
BTW a bit off topic but can't accelerator manipulate vectors without touching them?
or so it says here. A bit confused on how much this works lol. Pretty weird
He acquires black wings towards the end of volume 13 when he has an epiphany before being nearly killed by Kihara Amata, and fully awakens in his fight with the #2 level 5, Kakine Teitoku in Volume 15, during which he displays a massive superiority in power. When he awakens, Accelerator usually loses almost all control of himself and begins to speak in the language of the angels. He gains the ability to understand laws that are hitherto unknown and unexplainable to him, and no longer needs contact with vectors to control them
http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Accelerator
No, actually Noukan did survive then lol. I thought you said that he died, but he was actually a okay after going at Mach 20 (yeah no idea how, maybe aleister's spell or something lol).
BTW is that based off the assumption that he's like universe level maybe?
BTW a bit off topic but can't accelerator manipulate vectors without touching them?
or so it says here. A bit confused on how much this works lol. Pretty weird
He acquires black wings towards the end of volume 13 when he has an epiphany before being nearly killed by Kihara Amata, and fully awakens in his fight with the #2 level 5, Kakine Teitoku in Volume 15, during which he displays a massive superiority in power. When he awakens, Accelerator usually loses almost all control of himself and begins to speak in the language of the angels. He gains the ability to understand laws that are hitherto unknown and unexplainable to him, and no longer needs contact with vectors to control them
http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Accelerator
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Oh wait, you were talking about Noukan? I thought you were talking about High Priest lol Also, Noukan is still alive.Aurasuke said:
No, that's based on the fact that 682 can revive at will and neither Birdway or Kreutune can do anything about that.
Yes, Awakened Accel doesn't need to touch vectors to control them.
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What? How does being able to manipulate vectors without touching them even remotely translates into infinite range?Aurasuke said:
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because if you don't need to touch them, you can make vectors like galaxies move around. Though you could call it a NLF, but if we take it in terms of moving all vectors without touching them, one oculd interpret this as moving all vectors.
Also apparently in other threads accel also beat the flash lol
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/accelerator-a-certain-magical-index-vs-flash-1620635/
Also apparently in other threads accel also beat the flash lol
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/accelerator-a-certain-magical-index-vs-flash-1620635/
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she doesnt, she said to kreutune that she would cut of her limbs and bury her or so and some other stuff, like "if science cant do it than use something different"Aurasuke said:
PS: maybe accelerator wins against series-flash (the one in the tv-series) but not agaisnt comic-flash who is MFTL...
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She does, hence I placed her in the match. She clearly stated that she could use magic in order to force beings that use reactive evolution/Adaptation in order to be immortal, to transform themself through this ability into a state that isn't immortal anymore, so that they can be killed.GreatestSin said:she doesnt, she said to kreutune that she would cut of her limbs and bury her or so and some other stuff, like "if science cant do it than use something different"
Since SCP-682 has survived quite a bit of stuff I was curious if that method would be considered to work on it.
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Birdway's technique is too vague. She basically was going to interfere with Kreutune's purity as a being by adding magic and disrupting her balance, forcing her to transform into an state where she lost her immortality. The technique might not work on other types of reactive evolution, but let's assume it does for verse equalization and simplicity.
I don't know much about SCP, I've read a few of the entries and briefly played and seen people play the containment breach game, but by looking at SCP-682's profile it looks like it is very much above what Kreutune has displayed in terms of immortality and reactive evolution. Just to name a few, he survived being reality warped into a cat, and defeated a monster specifically designed to kill it that was made by another apparently quite powerful SCP.
As far as we know Kreutune's immortality has basically allowed her to survive conventional methods of torture and all kinds of physical destruction, starving, drowning, etc..., but I don't believe from what we have seen so far that she could actually do much against a reality warper. I mean, if Leivinia can changer her as a normal magician it seems logical that a reality warper could do the same with the same knowledge. I don't think Leivinia's technique is going to be of much use here, so she's going to get tired and killed eventually, as she can't keep using magic to boost her speed and durability forever.
So the result I'm going with is that Leivinia eventually dies, very likely neither SCP-682 or Kreutune can kill each other, so the battle is inconclusive.
I don't know much about SCP, I've read a few of the entries and briefly played and seen people play the containment breach game, but by looking at SCP-682's profile it looks like it is very much above what Kreutune has displayed in terms of immortality and reactive evolution. Just to name a few, he survived being reality warped into a cat, and defeated a monster specifically designed to kill it that was made by another apparently quite powerful SCP.
As far as we know Kreutune's immortality has basically allowed her to survive conventional methods of torture and all kinds of physical destruction, starving, drowning, etc..., but I don't believe from what we have seen so far that she could actually do much against a reality warper. I mean, if Leivinia can changer her as a normal magician it seems logical that a reality warper could do the same with the same knowledge. I don't think Leivinia's technique is going to be of much use here, so she's going to get tired and killed eventually, as she can't keep using magic to boost her speed and durability forever.
So the result I'm going with is that Leivinia eventually dies, very likely neither SCP-682 or Kreutune can kill each other, so the battle is inconclusive.
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