Lavos vs Homura

[Kaltias]

Madoka being abstract comes almost entirely from the main series. It's due to the whole "you are now a concept, nothing more than a concept, higher plane" stuff.

Only thing that the WA added to Madoka is being able to exist in nonexistence and the ability to affect nonexistent beings (I'd say that UKG qualifies due to taking a conceptual deletion to the face and regenerating in nonexistence) and people who have the same defenses that Madoka herself has without any particular issue.

 

[FateAlbane]

Oh, that I'm familiar with.

Looking over at the thread, I'd say both sides have presented a bunch of reasonable arguments, all things considered.

So maybe both agreeing to Inconclusive at this point could work best? If so, I shall agree with Inconclusive, myself.

 

[Kaltias]

Tbh i'm mostly neutral about the thread itself. I was only here to explain stuff (My first comment being about Lucemon of all people) ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬».

But i think that I can agree with inconclusive myself, after reading everything

 

[FateAlbane]

>>>> Flashbacks to the very first Madoka vs Lavos thread, with me debating for Madoka.

Whew.

We've come a long way.

 

[FateAlbane]

Anyways. My previously alluded like ages ago and a billion times by now lack of time has finally caught up to me, sooooo... Gtg here. Like, for realz now (refer to blog post).

Once I catch another break (probs few months from now like last time), I'll come by to say hi again.

See y'all!

 

[PaChi2]

Homura does't give a damn.

 

[Kaltias]

Goodbye! \o/

 

[Kaltias]

? I don't get it

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

No, she'd then get stomped. She gets stomped by the other Lucemon that are above CS Falldown Mode.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

No, she'd then get stomped. She gets stomped by the other Lucemon that are above CS Falldown Mode.

This never happened.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Yeah, because she fought the one CS Falldown Mode. She gets stomped by Satan Mode and the entire Reigitize Falldown/Satan. Same with Re Daemon and Ogudomon.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

I meant it as in, you didn't see my comment and we'll both forget about my tiny mishap.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Nevermind then.

 

[Kaltias]

Space flea: 4 (Gar, Cal, Glass, PaChi)

Girl who did nothing wrong: 0

They wreck havoc across the multiverse together: 3 (Me, Fate, SD)

I think. Granted, PaChi voted based on Homura not being able to deal with the clones which she can do (See my debate with Fate above), it's just more complicated than "Law power null gg"

Btw Homura will be a bit above baseline 2-A in a few days so there is that too (Because apparently Madoka having the power to affect the nonexistent and existent multiverse at once is above baseline)

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I go with this option.

"They wreck havoc across the multiverse together."

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Lavos FRA. lol.

 

[Schnee_One]

So now she will be somewhat above baseline, removing this thread right?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Probably not. If it really matters THAT much I can switch to TD.

 

[RKGenki]

Well, I'll go with inconclusive too

 

[Kaltias]

Lavos: 5 (Cal, Gar, PaChi, Glass, Holy)

Homu: 0

Inconclusive; 5 (Kal, Fate, SD, Dragon, RK)

I mean Homura doesn't gain an AP advantage to stompish levels or something, at least based on what i was told by Azzy. She punches a tad harder than before but that's kinda it (And she can affect nonexistence).

It would be cool if someone acknowledged the existence of said AP advantage tho. Given that it became a thing 170+ posts in

 

[RKGenki]

I tought dragon voted for inconclusive?

Edit: fixed

 

[Kaltias]

Nah, Dragon only wanted to see the multiverse burn. ovo

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Lavos: 5 (Cal, Gar, PaChi, Glass, Holy)
Homu: 0

Inconclusive; 5 (Kal, Fate, SD, Dragon, RK)

I mean Homura doesn't gain an AP advantage to stompish levels or something, at least based on what I was told by Azzy. She punches a tad harder than before but that's kinda it (And she can affect nonexistence).

It would be cool if someone acknowledged the existence of said AP advantage tho. Given that it became a thing 170+ posts in

lolwhot I didn't know Homura had a stronger form.

 

[Kaltias]

It's not a stronger form. It's Madoka's feat being actually above baseline adn Homura = Madoka

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Well, Inconclusive then.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

It's not a stronger form. It's Madoka's feat being actually above baseline and Homura = Madoka

Cool. More PMMM upgrades.

 

[Kaltias]

I mean, there are downgrades too. But no one cares about KG and Queen Mami so they don't count

 

[Schnee_One]

Wheres Q Mami going?

 

[DodoNova2]

Inconclusive! for reason above

 

[Kaltias]

@Gar

5-C and MHS+. Thread here btw

Lavos: 5 (Cal, Gar, PaChi, Glass, Holy)

Homu: 0

Inconclusive; 7 (Kal, Fate, SD, Dragon, RK, Homu, Dodo)

 

[Holyhotsauce]

I mean, there are downgrades too. But no one cares about KG and Queen Mami so they don't count

I need to make a match with UKG, but who? 2-A Zeed?

 

[Kaltias]

iirc Zeed needs revisions. That said, idk

 

[PaChi2]

I need to make a match with UKG, but who? 2-A Zeed?

No. Wait for the Zeed revision.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

I need to make a match with UKG, but who? 2-A Zeed?

No. Wait for the Zeed revision.

Okay.

 

[Peter1129]

Inconclusive for reasons above

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Inconclusive to Homura=Loss. I must've argue more ovo.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

> Homura now has an Inconclusive with Lavos

> *Intense sobbing*

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Goes from most victories to most draws on a character file.

 

[PaChi2]

BRING THE TIME DEVOURER

TD LAVOS!

 

[Peter1129]

Naw getting an inconclusive against one of the strongest 2-As weaker form is a win to me not a loss.