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Ladybug Becomes 2-A!
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Only Tier 1 need 3 staffs to agree
Tier 2 need 2 staffs
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Uh, that isn't what she says?
Ok, but doesn't every single time travel movie work this way?
"We have to do back in time to do X, and we run into ourselves"
I don't see how that is enough to show that all the "timelines" exist as seperate things
We wouldn't scale, say, Back to the Future to Multiversal, would we? Maybe we would, just nobody would scale to it
Isn't this just her saying "Since I am from the future, and I have it in the future, I can travel back here from any point, because the Burrow exists outside of time"?
She says this because the Monarch guy asks "How were you able to come here"
Though to be fair, if the timelines didn't exist seperately, then I don't know how she would still have it in the future, but I havent seen the show
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Eh, the creator said Bunnix lives in many alternate realities and each one is referred to as a space-time, also Thomas Astruc mentioned thousands of timelines exist.
Then we have Gabriels 2-A statement.
Bunnix herself comes from a timeline where the events of Cat Blanc didn't occur, and the same Cat Blanc who was deakumatized still exists today, each divergence in time creates a new timeline
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2-A seems solid.
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Does this mean we can go onto the scaling thread?
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this argument doesnt attack the fact that each window in the burrow is referred to as separate space-times
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Yes, 2-A got those who agree and this is enough.
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The Scaling thread has been created
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New thread
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Miraculous Ladybug Scaling Revision Part 2
Due to the "acceptance" of the last blog by some moderators, I have now written a short CRT about who is scales to Cosmology. More of the lower-tiered stuff will be coming soon but I believe we need to get this out of the way first. Of course once new info or overlooked info gets found I will...
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Apparently in london special trailer, we see bunnix checking the time portal and reversing before Gabriel made the wish, hypertimeline is possible?
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Let's wait for London Special first
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Indeed, judging by the the trailer, there could be a potential third tier 2 feat
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She says " we dont know WHERE he is or WHEN he is"
That sounds like she is referring to normal time travel and the writers just don't know what space time means
But I don't know the whole context
Ah OK that is better evidence that makes it more likely they did know what they implied, fair
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No, they are from the same timeline. It’s just that some kind of error happened, which is why Cat Blanc occurred. That’s why Bunnix was “disappearing” slowly.
We see in Cat Blanc episode that windows stand for the past of a single timeline
Also infinite timelines with a single Bunnix makes no sense, why aren’t there infinite Bunnixes from each timeline?
But it’s not I care enough to downgrade the verse, I watched the series up until early Season 4 and judging solely from what I’ve seen. I’m planning to watch it till the end though, so maybe you indeed are right.
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Alternative timelines
Alternative timelines are different realities from the same world that no longer exist, due to past events being altered. There are several instances where characters physically go back in time, to otherwise fix unfortunate events; the timeline with the unrepaired event then becomes an alternate...
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Tweet of Thomas saying thousands of timelines exist
Bunnix living in Alternate Realities. They are not all from the same timeline.
Each portal is a separate space-time, the argument for 2-A was Gabriel's parallel universe statement.
Then we have TIkki saying there's billions of universes.
This thread is accepted, btw.
"Nah, it's fan speculation. Besides, there's thousands of timelines, not everything is going to be the same in each one of them. Bunnyx can't even tell her who is Hawk Moth, even less she'll tell Marinette "btw Alya knows" because everything needs to follow it's natural order."
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I will look into thatAlternative timelines
Alternative timelines are different realities from the same world that no longer exist, due to past events being altered. There are several instances where characters physically go back in time, to otherwise fix unfortunate events; the timeline with the unrepaired event then becomes an alternate...
Contradicted. Why aren’t there infinite Bunnixes?
Contradicted, they link to the past and future of the main timeline
Okay? I was refuting pre-Season 4 stuff, since I know a lot about it.
Well aware
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My mistake, Each portal is a point of space-time, as stated by Ladybug in Evolution. But still separate.
We have no proof of Infinite Bunnix's existence, we do have the existence of thousands of timelines. (Check Thomas Tweet and OP's blog) Never shown or proven that there are Infinite Timelines.
The Burrow is a huge empty sphere whose walls are made of round facets. [It's like entering into a gigantic soccer ball]. Each facet is at the same time a screen and a portal to every available space-time continuum. In their regular state, these facets are blurred and frozen. They become unblurred and starts moving when you touch it, when you pass through it to step into the space-time displayed, or simply when you want to keep the portal open. [Script trick (?) to not show what's on the other side of those portals. When can conform ourselves with some blurry shots]
Taken directly from OP.
Its just a bunch of different realities from the existing one. The Cat Noir from Cat Blanc still exists today in a different reality/timeline.
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I'm pretty sure it's implied the Miraculous Ladybug restored the timeline to how it's supposed to be an erased the Cat Blanc timeline, which is why after the Miraculous Ladybug only one Ladybug remained like in Timebreaker
Also time travel doesn't create another universe. They go to the past of the same timeline and altering the past will change the present
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Yeah, I messed up on that part.
Alternative timelines
Alternative timelines are different realities from the same world that no longer exist, due to past events being altered. There are several instances where characters physically go back in time, to otherwise fix unfortunate events; the timeline with the unrepaired event then becomes an alternate...
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This page explains it pretty well.
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Alternative timelines
Alternative timelines are different realities from the same world that no longer exist, due to past events being altered. There are several instances where characters physically go back in time, to otherwise fix unfortunate events; the timeline with the unrepaired event then becomes an alternate...
Tweet of Thomas saying thousands of timelines exist
Bunnix living in Alternate Realities. They are not all from the same timeline.
Each portal is a separate space-time, the argument for 2-A was Gabriel's parallel universe statement.
Then we have TIkki saying there's billions of universes.
This thread is accepted, btw.
"Nah, it's fan speculation. Besides, there's thousands of timelines, not everything is going to be the same in each one of them. Bunnyx can't even tell her who is Hawk Moth, even less she'll tell Marinette "btw Alya knows" because everything needs to follow it's natural order."
I am an spanish speaker and yes, the translation is correct
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thank you
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Do you also agree with 2-B?
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If 2-A is agreed on, 2-B is fine. If the character scale to 2-B from the 2-A cosmology its fine, just make sure the other thread you created is accepted before this can be applied to our Miraculous Profiles
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The 2-B / 2-A statement is as blatant as it can get, especially since we see several of these other universes
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I still don’t think that Cat Blanc is another universe, nor each window being a separate space-time.
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What does this mean
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Feats > any statements
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????????, Cosmology is almost never given via any actual feats besides direction creation feats
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Indeed
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Feats in how windows work I mean. They are very explicitly time-travel.
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Everything regarding time travel in Miraculous suggests they travel to the same timeline (and outright proven in Evolution). There's no hyper-timeline
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Yeah, this is exactly what I’m saying
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No, otherwise Bunnyx wouldn't have been slowly erased when Cat Blanc's future happened, as it'd only affect Cat Blanc's timeline's Alix, not the other future Alix from a supposedly different timeline
In Evolution they directly go the past of the same "timeline" they started in when running through the burrow. In "Time Tagger", Bunnyx was constantly thrown to different times yet always came back to the same "timeline", and in "Protection", Bunnyx went to the future to check the weather 200 years in the future of Ladybug's own "timeline"
These are all instances of time travel combined with spacial travel. Basically the burrow allow the user to go into any point in space and time within their universe. They can't go into other universes like the ones in the Paris special
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It is like he stated that he was going to erase EVERYTHING, also the authors have ad verbum stated that timelines exist
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