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I haveOne more since this is a 2-A upgrade on a not very popular verse.
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I haveOne more since this is a 2-A upgrade on a not very popular verse.
Have you tried pinging people on their message walls?
Only Tier 1 need 3 staffs to agreeDojt I need two more staff to agree
due to another statement by Tiki, stating that theres billions of different universes which she existed in
Ok, but doesn't every single time travel movie work this way?However, the main evidence to suggest this is the fact that within the episode of "Evolution" we see another pair of Ladybug and Cat Noir attempting to catch Monarch after he gains the power of all of the Miraculous(es). He then enters a Burrow portal, and travels back to the events of "Lady Wifi"; specifically, the scene where Lady Wifi had Ladybug pinned against a wall. After that Ladybug, Cat Noir and Adult Bunnyx walk into the burrow and pull Monarch from that time. But before than Bunnyx says "He’s traveled to your first battle against Lady Wifi!" to which Ladybug responds with "But that's not how it happened." But then Bunnyx then responds to that with "But that’s what will happen if we don’t stop him." This means that if they don't stop Monarch then by him taking the Ladybug Miraculous, he will have created a different timeline, a new "future" if you may.
10:53 for Tikki's billions of universes statementsUh, that isn't what she says?
Ok, but doesn't every single time travel movie work this way?
"We have to do back in time to do X, and we run into ourselves"
I don't see how that is enough to show that all the "timelines" exist as seperate things
We wouldn't scale, say, Back to the Future to Multiversal, would we? Maybe we would, just nobody would scale to it
Isn't this just her saying "Since I am from the future, and I have it in the future, I can travel back here from any point, because the Burrow exists outside of time"?
She says this because the Monarch guy asks "How were you able to come here"
Though to be fair, if the timelines didn't exist seperately, then I don't know how she would still have it in the future, but I havent seen the show
Eh, the creator said Bunnix lives in many alternate realities and each one is referred to as a space-time, also Thomas Astruc mentioned thousands of timelines exist.Uh, that isn't what she says?
Ok, but doesn't every single time travel movie work this way?
"We have to do back in time to do X, and we run into ourselves"
I don't see how that is enough to show that all the "timelines" exist as seperate things
We wouldn't scale, say, Back to the Future to Multiversal, would we? Maybe we would, just nobody would scale to it
Isn't this just her saying "Since I am from the future, and I have it in the future, I can travel back here from any point, because the Burrow exists outside of time"?
She says this because the Monarch guy asks "How were you able to come here"
Though to be fair, if the timelines didn't exist seperately, then I don't know how she would still have it in the future, but I havent seen the show
this argument doesnt attack the fact that each window in the burrow is referred to as separate space-timesUh, that isn't what she says?
Ok, but doesn't every single time travel movie work this way?
"We have to do back in time to do X, and we run into ourselves"
I don't see how that is enough to show that all the "timelines" exist as seperate things
We wouldn't scale, say, Back to the Future to Multiversal, would we? Maybe we would, just nobody would scale to it
Isn't this just her saying "Since I am from the future, and I have it in the future, I can travel back here from any point, because the Burrow exists outside of time"?
She says this because the Monarch guy asks "How were you able to come here"
Though to be fair, if the timelines didn't exist seperately, then I don't know how she would still have it in the future, but I havent seen the show
Yes, 2-A got those who agree and this is enough.Does this mean we can go onto the scaling thread?
The Scaling thread has been createdYes, 2-A got those who agree and this is enough.
Let's wait for London Special firstApparently in london special trailler, we see bunnix checking the time portal and reversing before Gabriel made the wish, hypertimeline is possible?
Indeed, judging by the the trailer, there could be a potential third tier 2 featLet's wait for London Special first
She says " we dont know WHERE he is or WHEN he is"this argument doesnt attack the fact that each window in the burrow is referred to as separate space-times
Ah OK that is better evidence that makes it more likely they did know what they implied, fairEh, the creator said Bunnix lives in many alternate realities and each one is referred to as a space-time, also Thomas Astruc mentioned thousands of timelines exist.
Then we have Gabriels 2-A statement.
Bunnix herself comes from a timeline where the events of Cat Blanc didn't occur, and the same Cat Blanc who was deakumatized still exists today, each divergence in time creates a new timeline
No, they are from the same timeline. It’s just that some kind of error happened, which is why Cat Blanc occurred. That’s why Bunnix was “disappearing” slowly.Bunnix herself comes from a timeline where the events of Cat Blanc didn't occur,
We see in Cat Blanc episode that windows stand for the past of a single timelinethis argument doesnt attack the fact that each window in the burrow is referred to as separate space-times
No, they are from the same timeline. It’s just that some kind of error happened, which is why Cat Blanc occurred. That’s why Bunnix was “disappearing” slowly.
We see in Cat Blanc episode that windows stand for the past of a single timeline
Also infinite timelines with a single Bunnix makes no sense, why aren’t there infinite Bunnixes from each timeline?
But it’s not I care enough to downgrade the verse, I watched the series up until early Season 4 and judging solely from what I’ve seen. I’m planning to watch it till the end though, so maybe you indeed are right.
I will look into thatAlternative timelines
Alternative timelines are different realities from the same world that no longer exist, due to past events being altered. There are several instances where characters physically go back in time, to otherwise fix unfortunate events; the timeline with the unrepaired event then becomes an alternate...miraculousladybug.fandom.com
Contradicted. Why aren’t there infinite Bunnixes?Bunnix living in Alternate Realities. They are not all from the same timeline.
Contradicted, they link to the past and future of the main timelineEach portal is a separate space-time,
Okay? I was refuting pre-Season 4 stuff, since I know a lot about it.the argument for 2-A was Gabriel's parallel universe statement. Then we have TIkki saying there's billions of universes.
Well awareThis thread is accepted, btw.
My mistake, Each portal is a point of space-time, as stated by Ladybug in Evolution. But still separate.Contradicted, they link to the past and future of the main timeline
We have no proof of Infinite Bunnix's existence, we do have the existence of thousands of timelines. (Check Thomas Tweet and OP's blog) Never shown or proven that there are Infinite Timelines.Contradicted. Why aren’t there infinite Bunnixes?
I'm pretty sure it's implied the Miraculous Ladybug restored the timeline to how it's supposed to be an erased the Cat Blanc timeline, which is why after the Miraculous Ladybug only one Ladybug remained like in TimebreakerThe Cat Noir from Cat Blanc still exists today in a different reality/timeline.
Yeah, I messed up on that part.I'm pretty sure it's implied the Miraculous Ladybug restored the timeline to how it's supposed to be an erased the Cat Blanc timeline, which is why after the Miraculous Ladybug only one Ladybug remained like in Timebreaker
Also time travel doesn't create another universe. They go to the past of the same timeline and altering the past will change the present
Alternative timelines
Alternative timelines are different realities from the same world that no longer exist, due to past events being altered. There are several instances where characters physically go back in time, to otherwise fix unfortunate events; the timeline with the unrepaired event then becomes an alternate...miraculousladybug.fandom.com
Tweet of Thomas saying thousands of timelines exist
Bunnix living in Alternate Realities. They are not all from the same timeline.
Each portal is a separate space-time, the argument for 2-A was Gabriel's parallel universe statement.
Then we have TIkki saying there's billions of universes.
This thread is accepted, btw.
"Nah, it's fan speculation. Besides, there's thousands of timelines, not everything is going to be the same in each one of them. Bunnyx can't even tell her who is Hawk Moth, even less she'll tell Marinette "btw Alya knows" because everything needs to follow it's natural order."
thank youI am an spanish speaker and yes, the translation is correct
Nohypertimeline is possible?
Do you also agree with 2-B?
If 2-A is agreed on, 2-B is fine. If the character scale to 2-B from the 2-A cosmology its fine, just make sure the other thread you created is accepted before this can be applied to our Miraculous ProfilesDo you also agree with 2-B?
What does this meanI still don’t think that Cat Blanc is another universe, nor each window being a separate space-time.
I still don’t think that Cat Blanc is another universe, nor each window being a separate space-time.
Ladybug referes to the windows as space time
The Official Twitter referes to them as space-times
The Official source on the burrow referes to them as space times
????????, Cosmology is almost never given via any actual feats besides direction creation featsFeats > any statements
IndeedThe London special episode trailer seems to support that the windows are different space-times.
Feats in how windows work I mean. They are very explicitly time-travel.????????, Cosmology is almost never given via any actual feats besides direction creation feats
Yeah, this is exactly what I’m sayingEverything regarding time travel in Miraculous suggests they travel to the same timeline
No, otherwise Bunnyx wouldn't have been slowly erased when Cat Blanc's future happened, as it'd only affect Cat Blanc's timeline's Alix, not the other future Alix from a supposedly different timelineThe London special episode trailer seems to support that the windows are different space-times.
It is like he stated that he was going to erase EVERYTHING, also the authors have ad verbum stated that timelines existNo, otherwise Bunnyx wouldn't have been slowly erased when Cat Blanc's future happened, as it'd only affect Cat Blanc's timeline's Alix, not the other future Alix from a supposedly different timeline