No, I'm not. You have a serious paranoia problem dude.
Okay. If you want to focus on the CRT, then you should not make comments randomly accusing staff of scheming to close your thread because they asked what the votes were, or accusing them of trying to impact your reputation, et cetera. You keep claiming you want to drop this but you keep perpetuating it for some reason.
Well I'm continuing it for the same reason you're continuing it.
Well, DT Nero did stomp them on a much earlier state of game, he even goes as far as fighting an evolved one and beat him. Now, what is going on here? Is this some kind of magic trick that makes Nero go weaker as the game goes on?! Not exactly. I would like to call this, a PIS, why? Simple, now we see Kyrie in the fight there and it's clear Nero wants to save her. Now what would happen if Nero saved her right away because he beated up those knights and Agnus? Simple, Nero's plot ******* ends. Oh and Dante would get much faster to The Savior due to not having to deal with Agnus as well, killing the old man in diapers quickly and ending the game in less than 10 missions, nice!! I don't think i have to explain it any further.
Oh, well alright. So you're saying we should only base Lady being Star Level (which mind you it's pretty inconsistent) just because of Dante saying a one-liner that should somehow be specific enough to consider Nero when he's not even there and that's not even the point of the liner?
he only stomped them when he was pissed off and actually in devil trigger. Moments before he had just been stabbed and overpowered by them all.
Well regardless of if he's the point or not, he's included in the statement. Especially since he's one of the only strong guys Dante knows at this point in the series to begin with besides Vergil, and every tier 2 guy or member of the order of the sword is dead, and he doesn't even really know V either. For the statement to even mean anything at all it would have to apply to like...the only guy left in the series who could fight demons at all.
This isn't replying my argument, it's just you stating what you said again. Nero defeated far more powerful beings than the knights and i proved it as a PIS for him to struggle with lower enemies, you now have to prove how that point is wrong.
"THE ONLY GUY LEFT IN THE SERIES WHO COULD FIGHT DEMONS AT ALL" yeah bro, no cap definitely 100%
I am not denying that he defeated stronger enemies, I am simply saying that it's shown on multiple occassions that he can't one shot them without a significant amp. Yes he has defeated stronger, but that just means that the gap between Bianco Angelos and his strongest enemies isn't to the point where they'd be completely stomped. It's not PIS when it happens more than once is my point.
They're not guys. That was deliberate on my end.
nope, she just scales above Nero, that's it.
You know i can count the "multiple occassions" with my fingers. Worst part is you could say the first one is ANOTHER PIS because it was made to awaken Nero's DT with enraged, you can even see how Agnus gets flung across the room with the shockwave, whom scales far higher than the knights.
Any why only Nero? You yourself said that the statement makes Lady scale above any other guy Dante knows is alive such as Nero, Lesser Demons and... LUCIA!
Everything that affects the plot isn’t automatically PIS, Jesus Christ dude, that’s an absolutely extraordinary fallacy. By this logic, literally everything is PIS because it has to happen in the story. You can’t just say everything you don’t like is PIS and everything you do like is perfectly fine.
….what???? Since when is literally just cutting through something dura neg, that’s called AP. I don’t even know where you’re getting this from at all.
I told you why already, but you left it out of your reply for some reason
A “ton” of other shit which I just debunked above
You may have responded, that doesn't mean anyone has to agree with you. If they agree more with Tony, it is what it is.
Why is this going to stop me from attempting to persuade them? It’s not like I can stop them from agreeing and then ditching the thread, all I was doing was saying that the argument they agree with doesn’t hold up
You can try. But to then go over and over the same thing t's a waste of time. Sometimes we have to learn to take no for an answer, you know.
This doesn't seem to be one of those times at the moment.
According to you.
You're completely ignoring that Nero got beaten up by beings weaker than him, but LET'S ASSUME THIS ISN'T PIS.
It is penetrating damage and serves as a virtual way of negating resistance due to it stretching the zone of impact, essentially crushing it and breaking the links between molecules which weakens the resistance to easily create an area of entry.
Cuz i didn't see how it explained anything and it just acted like christmas decoration there, could you explain it further if it's important to the argument? I really didn't understand it.
coming up with counterarguments is not stonewalling, it's called discussing. You are using stonewall as a buzzword, which really just means "you are disagreeing with me too long, please stop"
The idea that post dt nero is stronger in base to begin with is shaky, especially considering that's not even his real devil trigger. I might actually get to that another time, but regardless, saying that post-dt nero is too much is something that you have to prove, and the burden of proof is heavily on you if you are claiming it's PIS for post dt nero to not be able to one shot Bianco Angelos. Simply saying that he fought someone stronger does not cut it, because that doesn't mean that it wouldn't just scale lower into the same tier.
yes, piercing damage, but either way there is no justification for choosing to scale it to pre dt nero but not accepting the fact that it was able to tangle with post dt nero
cutting this short to say I am still in the middle of typing my response. This is exactly what I talked about earlier.
Probably.
Cool, but you're always going to have more to say. Arguments can go on forever. The odds of you convincing 5 other staff to agree with you is unlikely.
and you have not even begun to give me a chance to speak to you about your disagreement. Of course it is well within your rights to speed blitz a crt and not allow the opposition to respond (staff do whatever the hell they want) but I am just informing you that it would be in extremely poor taste.
there have been worse odds before, just let me speak for christ sake. Lordgriffon didn't even reconfirm his vote, ping him or something and let him read through everything that has been said.
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.
Sorry, I've read your points. Unlikely you will convince me. Again, accept no for an answer, saves you time.
Wym Post-DT Nero is not stronger that's literally ACCEPTED on the wiki.
I said it's limited, not that it doesn't negate durability and that much lower guys can **** you up with piercing damage. And how would Lady's piercing be 4-C?? That doesn't even make sense. If you're talking about the Knight then no, those don't scale from Post-DT Nero, i already explained why that is PIS, your argument to debunk me was holding up because you think: Nero (Post-DT) >= Nero (Pre-DT) which is not accepted in the wiki as i said earlier.
you pinged everyone except for lordgriffon
typical debating etiquette includes listing all your reasoning, as I have done every. singe. post.
I pinged supporters of the verse and a neutral staff. Fresh opinions that may provide something new that may have not been considered yet. If you have a problem with that, the rest of your post becomes humorous to me. Also, I did not see the comment about asking for @LordGriffin1000 again. But go off, I suppose.
yeah ik, that's something that this crt (or I guess another one, if this dies) would have to change, since Bianco angelo downscales from both his base forms and there's no justification for saying that his base got stronger from him getting a new transformation.
I see.
