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La Signora VS Heatblast (1-7-0) GRACE
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Linked the wrong thread my bad.
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Yeah i have seen worse
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Where?
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Normal threads, recentky had a massive debate wirh the end reveal being that one of the character cant interact with fhe other
And yeah, its pretry common for people to go whacko, call stomp or accuse the ofher party of smth. Oh and dont even get me started on yt powerscaling debates...
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I don't think you've seen Matthew vs LordAizenSama or LAS vs Weeklybattles lol.Normal threads, recentky had a massive debate wirh the end reveal being that one of the character cant interact with fhe other
And yeah, its pretry common for people to go whacko, call stomp or accuse the ofher party of smth. Oh and dont even get me started on yt powerscaling debates...
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Both got nuked XD
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I think Supernova hot feat is true, considering Gwen stated twice that Ben can go supernova hot and weighted it down with saying she's sure. She's reliable when it comes to stuff like that. What I'm seeing is just mostly bad depiction of that feat which is not new in Ben 10 or many of fiction. Consider how fiction barely or can never depict a blackhole with all of it's properties. Or think of how lazers that may have statements of being Light speed but has contradicted one or many properties of light by bending without reflection/refraction or smth.
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Arkenis
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Shouldn't use fiction to try and argue why another feat in fiction should be taken as fact just cause its stated. Feats like these should be represented as accurate as possible artistically and this feat doesn't seem to be from what I read
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Every single Alien X revision for the past 5 years
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I was actually using our standards rather than other fiction. We do accept that it's impossible for fiction to depict few feats accurately, especially when it involves plot demand. And whether statements should take precedence over depiction when it comes to analysing a feat is just case by case. In which case. I'd take it to be supernova hot, since no, accurate depiction of smth is just requires lot of work and stuff to pulloff.
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Heatblast has shown being able to control his fire so, there’s no real issue here
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Also Heatblast can just spam fire on the opponent by pointing at them
Arkenis
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What plot demand is needed here? If a baby hb has gone supernova before, was it shown? And a simple depiction could be a reading of the temp or heat feats on that level. Surely going supernova would show some feats of such heat?
Controlling fire really doesn't matter. Heat radiates regardless of where the source is, especially at such high temp like a supernova.
Sig could just dodge. She can also teleport to HB to dodge it and also catch him off guard.
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Gwen becoming non existent.
Yeah, in another episode where Gwen told ben to go supernova hot.
Doesn't see how it's any different than someone like Gwen confirming he's and can go for sure. She solos. Supernova hot isn't even a regular hyperbole we see anywhere, far too much for coming consistent.
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Then HB can also control heat.
Dodge someone pointing at her?
Ah, that’s a problem, though HB also has his own fire teleportation.
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When has he shown to control the heat? Also its not even on page.
Yeah. Its like dodging someone shooting a laser beam from their finger, reacting to the pointing. Is it instantaneous?
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Oh you’re right lol, that’s funny.
She probably won’t realize what’s happening until she’s on fire but her being put on fire probably takes a small bit.
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voting Signora fra
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Anyhow Signora's advantages are better range (the profiles don't actually site any range feats for either), access to elemental intangability and resistance to fire. Heatblasts advantages are higher AP, hotter flames (?) and an Ice resistance.
I'd say Heatblast takes it. Signora in her first phase just stands still and defends herself with an ice shield that HB shouldn't have a problem melting. The CWoF form would be more of an issue because of the fire resistance and her contasntly moving around but he should still take it thanks to the higher AP
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If that's the case then heatblasts fire won't feel any resistance yeah. Heatblast FRA.
Giannysmag
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Also you should change the AP value in the OP. The 34 Gigaton value for Signora comes from this calc, however there is an updated version of the calc that puts it at 5.8 Gigatons that's also listed on the verse page
Giannysmag
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no worries, it's again just the profiles being really old and out-of dateAh yeah I'm so blind
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While heatblast heat was at 6000 kelvin, iirc signora state herself her flame was able to burn leave no ashes, what temperature that would be?
Giannysmag
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Cremations happen at 1400 to 1800 C or 1600 to 2000 Kelvin, so Signora would be vaguely above that
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Or maybe not, after searching ash likely can't be burn since it's already lost it's fuel. I guess it just part of hax
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Ah such of delightful scenery to see Signora lose so badly here, Heatblast FRA
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HB FRA
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Your MOM fra.
