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Kusuo Saiki vs All Medaka Box Characters 1 by 1 (speed equalized, Bloodlusted) 5-B reality warping form
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No Etc, I am asking for the direct chapter where this happened, not just a strip. I wanna check it out.
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There's still the issues of...
1. Seeing someone 4km away in Central Park. If they're considered to have automatic LoS Shinobu would be stomping this thread and probably be the strongest 10-B.
2. Is Saiki's soul-stealing instant (does it need to rip from the body, etc)? You haven't answered this.
3. Why does Saiki's soul stealing need the victim to be petrified to work?
4. Why are you assuming that Saiki would open with soul stealing after petrifying and not anything else?
5. We don't use bloodlust for the top 5 strongest list.
6. It's still an incon with most characters anyway.
1. Seeing someone 4km away in Central Park. If they're considered to have automatic LoS Shinobu would be stomping this thread and probably be the strongest 10-B.
2. Is Saiki's soul-stealing instant (does it need to rip from the body, etc)? You haven't answered this.
3. Why does Saiki's soul stealing need the victim to be petrified to work?
4. Why are you assuming that Saiki would open with soul stealing after petrifying and not anything else?
5. We don't use bloodlust for the top 5 strongest list.
6. It's still an incon with most characters anyway.
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Also yet again you are misunderstanding
If Kumagawa gets petrified all fiction brings him back and he erases time instantly. There is no delay there is no time for Saiki to do anything
Edit:Isn't the goal for Saiki to take the 8-B slot, if so why are you using the 6-C possibly 5-B key
If Kumagawa gets petrified all fiction brings him back and he erases time instantly. There is no delay there is no time for Saiki to do anything
Edit:Isn't the goal for Saiki to take the 8-B slot, if so why are you using the 6-C possibly 5-B key
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I didn't ask for any of that, I just asked you to provide me the chapter number. I would hope that isn't too hard to do, yes?Ecetereis said:
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1. Some Medaka characters are resistant to this ability
2. It does need him to touch, but teleporting next to him would take up the resurrection time. The person is incap as soon as he teleports and is next to him
3. It doesn't, it just stalls
4. He's a genius that would know that those are his strongest abilities that won't destroy Earth. Reality warping is too uncertain.
5.Oh wait, Saiki would've won due to these 2 powers without bloodlust because he would've reality warped with a thought the Earth and teleported away which necros if they can't breath nor concentrate in space.
2. It does need him to touch, but teleporting next to him would take up the resurrection time. The person is incap as soon as he teleports and is next to him
3. It doesn't, it just stalls
4. He's a genius that would know that those are his strongest abilities that won't destroy Earth. Reality warping is too uncertain.
5.Oh wait, Saiki would've won due to these 2 powers without bloodlust because he would've reality warped with a thought the Earth and teleported away which necros if they can't breath nor concentrate in space.
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I'm not sure where you are getting this resurrection time from its instantaneousPaul Frank said:
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You can't equalize something that takes no time to the time of another power
The instant they are petrified all fiction activates
The instant they are petrified all fiction activates
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1. That doesn't mean that Saiki would get LoS when that isn't assumed under SBA.
2. So Saiki's actions are teleport > soul rip, while Medaka/Misogi's are All-Fiction > kill. So it'd be inconclusive.
2. So Saiki's actions are teleport > soul rip, while Medaka/Misogi's are All-Fiction > kill. So it'd be inconclusive.
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I still want that manga chapter to check out unless, again, it's too troublesome to provide.
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I don't think we ever really got to see the full potential of Saiki's powers, and probably never will, which kinda sucks.
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... Ummm.
Etc, from what I could see Saiki needs to have eye contact, and it's damn fast but it's not instantaneous.
For one, you can see right here that Saiki's head is facing us with the back. He's not looking away, but his dad is alright, which would be impossible if it was his whole range of vision and he didn't need to see your eyes/face or focus on you. He can even pull his glasses off with telekinesis to use them himself.
Then there's this.
Saiki has enough time to hear him talk, try to reach for his glasses, be surprised and then cover his eyes. In the panel right after his eyes are covered, Netsuo is still not, or doesn't look, petrified.
The next page is when he's fully petrified. Very short time interval, but nothing you can call instantaneous.
Etc, from what I could see Saiki needs to have eye contact, and it's damn fast but it's not instantaneous.
For one, you can see right here that Saiki's head is facing us with the back. He's not looking away, but his dad is alright, which would be impossible if it was his whole range of vision and he didn't need to see your eyes/face or focus on you. He can even pull his glasses off with telekinesis to use them himself.
Then there's this.
Saiki has enough time to hear him talk, try to reach for his glasses, be surprised and then cover his eyes. In the panel right after his eyes are covered, Netsuo is still not, or doesn't look, petrified.
The next page is when he's fully petrified. Very short time interval, but nothing you can call instantaneous.
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Is it faster than the mind can think? As long as it is, it interrupts All-Fiction nonetheless. Also, he's covering his eyes. You can assume this as he was, during that interval in the anime when his dad appeared. He likely used telepathy or clairvoyance.LSirLancelotDuLacl said:... Ummm.
Etc, from what I could see Saiki needs to have eye contact, and it's damn fast but it's not instantaneous.
For one, you can see right here that Saiki's head is facing us with the back. He's not looking away, but his dad is alright, which would be impossible if it was his whole range of vision and he didn't need to see your eyes/face or focus on you. He can even pull his glasses off with telekinesis to use them himself.
Then there's this.
Saiki has enough time to hear him talk, try to reach for his glasses, be surprised and then cover his eyes. In the panel right after his eyes are covered, Netsuo is still not, or doesn't look, petrified.
The next page is when he's fully petrified. Very short time interval, but nothing you can call instantaneous.
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He literally shows he has the time to reach his hand out, get surprised, which is thinking, and cover his eyes before Netsuo is fully petrificated. I am not sure how you could think this is faster, or even comparable in speed, to just thinking.
We already said before that we don't use the anime, or at most it's supporting canon. His hands aren't lifted up when facing his dad, not to mention that both times we have seen it being used (on Netsuo and on his dad), he was looking at them both in the face.
We already said before that we don't use the anime, or at most it's supporting canon. His hands aren't lifted up when facing his dad, not to mention that both times we have seen it being used (on Netsuo and on his dad), he was looking at them both in the face.
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Telepathy has literally nothing at all to do with extending the range of his petrification, since his petrificacion works by eyesight.
And you still have nothing at all that proves he was actually covering his eyes, as his arms weren't up. Assuming he closed his eyes would also have no justification as he didn't do it in any of the panels, and he could have even more easily closed them and asked his dad for his glasses, which he didn't do. Telepathy is also mind reading, which again has nothing to do with knowing where his dad's glasses are and using telekinesis to move them closer so he can grab them. By occam's razor, he was looking at his Dad's back with his eyes opened and his power needs him to at least see someone's face, not petrify everyone no matter what as long as they are in his range of vision (why would Saiki remember affecting his dad as a kid while looking at his face instead of affecting a ton of people at the city if he only needed to have someone in his range of sight? You would imagine the second one would be much, much more impactful.)
So simple answer, it needs eye to eye contact or at least seeing the face until more proof comes, so Kumagawa still EEs or Seals.
And you still have nothing at all that proves he was actually covering his eyes, as his arms weren't up. Assuming he closed his eyes would also have no justification as he didn't do it in any of the panels, and he could have even more easily closed them and asked his dad for his glasses, which he didn't do. Telepathy is also mind reading, which again has nothing to do with knowing where his dad's glasses are and using telekinesis to move them closer so he can grab them. By occam's razor, he was looking at his Dad's back with his eyes opened and his power needs him to at least see someone's face, not petrify everyone no matter what as long as they are in his range of vision (why would Saiki remember affecting his dad as a kid while looking at his face instead of affecting a ton of people at the city if he only needed to have someone in his range of sight? You would imagine the second one would be much, much more impactful.)
So simple answer, it needs eye to eye contact or at least seeing the face until more proof comes, so Kumagawa still EEs or Seals.
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Again, as far as I remember we don't use the anime for mangas, the main canon is the manga itself.
And no, I refer to later when his dad is checking out the statue. Kusuo's face isn't facing to the right, or the left, or behind, but ahead. His dad is in his range of vision, he isn't covering his eyes and not once does he close them except when he covers them upon first realizing he doesn't have his glasses on. So the only sensible explanation is that his ability only works with eye contact or seeing the face directly.
Rather, the two times it worked it worked by him looknig at people in the eye. There's literally no reason at all to assume he can look anywhere and that it affects anyone in his range of vision.
And no, I refer to later when his dad is checking out the statue. Kusuo's face isn't facing to the right, or the left, or behind, but ahead. His dad is in his range of vision, he isn't covering his eyes and not once does he close them except when he covers them upon first realizing he doesn't have his glasses on. So the only sensible explanation is that his ability only works with eye contact or seeing the face directly.
Rather, the two times it worked it worked by him looknig at people in the eye. There's literally no reason at all to assume he can look anywhere and that it affects anyone in his range of vision.
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Yeah Saiki is not as strong as you're making him out to be ....
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I think he might be able to overcome their mental resistance because this thread accepted it https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2424124
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Afaik he does not have passive planetary mindhax I would like scans of that
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He has things already set up rules and logic in the world. He also made it so no one rejects his limiters in the world. With 2 limiters off, he reads the entire world's thoughts which is why his range is planetary.Agnaa said:
- Reality Warping: He demonstrated to make colored hair a natural occurrence, made it so that all injuries in the world heal much faster than normal, made it so that buildings are build in weeks instead of month, made it so that the brain works way faster in important situations, made underwear indestructible, made it so that a person with a small body can have ridiculous strength, made it so that a person can easily become unconscious by hitting them to the back of the neck, can possibly grant superpowers to every human in the world; However, he cannot return the changes he's made to normal.
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That's not mindhax it's even listed as reality warping
It also seems like it just makes his wishes true so that's likely thought speed not passive
It also seems like it just makes his wishes true so that's likely thought speed not passive
