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Kriemhild Gretchen vs The Emperor of Mankind
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Anyway, derailing. Please do continue.
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@Azzy I'm not sure if predicting actions taken by acasual conceptual beings would be enough
UKG has been erased conceptually on a multiversal/4-D scale from both existence and nonexistence, so she has basically 0 connections to the flow of space-time in both multiverses
If these conceptual entities are the high 1-B chaos god, then probably he can see something, if it is their selves (?) outside the warp, I'm not sure
UKG has been erased conceptually on a multiversal/4-D scale from both existence and nonexistence, so she has basically 0 connections to the flow of space-time in both multiverses
If these conceptual entities are the high 1-B chaos god, then probably he can see something, if it is their selves (?) outside the warp, I'm not sure
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The Chaos Gods are High 1-B acausal beings who live in a realm where time itself does not even exist as a concept, unless they will it to.
Their acausality also leads to stuff such as the fact that they have always existed, and always will exist, even explicitly before they existed, and yet don't truly exist at all.
I'd say they're pretty disconnected from the flow of space-time, as well.
The Chaos Gods are High 1-B acausal beings who live in a realm where time itself does not even exist as a concept, unless they will it to.
Their acausality also leads to stuff such as the fact that they have always existed, and always will exist, even explicitly before they existed, and yet don't truly exist at all.
I'd say they're pretty disconnected from the flow of space-time, as well.
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Interestingly enough Madoka (And consequently UKG) also existed before they existed (Man that wording is confusing).
It's shown in Tamura, when Ult. Madoka appears to Tamura during volume 2, despite the fact that the LoC/Ultimate Madoka isn't actually a thing until the end of Volume 3 (Which is when she appears again and witches start disappearing, and as we know is the first thing that happened when Madoka becameSuper Saiyan God the Law of Cycles)
Madoka is thefifth oh right Malal exists sixth Chaos God ovo
It's shown in Tamura, when Ult. Madoka appears to Tamura during volume 2, despite the fact that the LoC/Ultimate Madoka isn't actually a thing until the end of Volume 3 (Which is when she appears again and witches start disappearing, and as we know is the first thing that happened when Madoka became
Madoka is the
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Every metaphysical acausal worth their shit should meet that criteria, imo.
Just using it as an example of things having no link to the flow of space-time.
Just using it as an example of things having no link to the flow of space-time.
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The Existence Erasure is just something people on the tier of the Emperor can do. I'm pretty sure Guilliman does the same thing when wielding the Emperor's Sword in Dark Imperium, even though it now contains just a fraction of his power, and the Emperor also forged a hammer to Vulkan that can do the same thing too.
Both Yvraine and the Yncarne can do it too, albeit they use a different power-source.
And now that I remember it, the Grey Knights have a Psychic Ability called "Holocaust" that is literally a mini-version of the Emperor's erasure ability.
Both Yvraine and the Yncarne can do it too, albeit they use a different power-source.
And now that I remember it, the Grey Knights have a Psychic Ability called "Holocaust" that is literally a mini-version of the Emperor's erasure ability.
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Bump this before going to work.
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Yeah, the others make a good point UKG isn't gonna be able to do anything to note to the GEOM while the GEOM will just erase her the second the battle starts.
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Well this thread just got outdated. UKG now has doppel abilities as well.
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And how does that change this match?SomebodyData said:
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Well, she has passive aura and poison manip, as well as her own EE.
Though like I said above in the thread, that range is currently GEOM biggest drawback, even if we go and say its planetary, its not enough to get to UKG once she teleports.
Though like I said above in the thread, that range is currently GEOM biggest drawback, even if we go and say its planetary, its not enough to get to UKG once she teleports.
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well I mean the poison thing might not do anything seeing as how the GEOM has to deal with opponents like Nurgle and his daemons which are the literal embodiment of disease and often use poison as there the main method of taking opponents down so yeah I'm not sure that will work.
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And he also has resistance to EE as well (it's even on his profile)
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Forgot about the latter, but the aura, invisibility, and definitely the range thing still stand.
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Is invisibility really a good factor when he can use precog to find where she's at?
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Invisibility I would contest that point cause lesser pyskers could hide there presence and his son magnus also has invisibility so I don't see why he can't deal with it.SomebodyData said:
What does the aura do exactly?
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Wait if you mean tarts magic negation I don't see how that would work on him seeing as how we just went through a discussion above on how Power nullification wouldn't work on him
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Or the life absorption
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Tart's aura isn't her magic negation.
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Sorry I don't really know that much about herSomebodyData said:
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You know about Ghost Rider's Penance Stare right? Its like that but aura based.
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Oh and what abilities are tied towards thatSomebodyData said:
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Well like I said, its akin to that of the Penance Stare. I guess it would fall under Holy Manipulation based durability negation? (I mean, she does technically go against it at the same time)
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Does she have that in her weaker tier???
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Oh now that might actually hurt the GEOM and possibly kill him though you got to remember that he apparently has Mid-Godly regen via dying (Never thought I say that)SomebodyData said:
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@Glassman you mean as 5-B UKG? Yes.
@Thatoneguy I mean, given her info analysis and pre-cog, she could just keep him a vegetable. Although how long does his regen take?
@Thatoneguy I mean, given her info analysis and pre-cog, she could just keep him a vegetable. Although how long does his regen take?
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@Data No, I'm talking about her normal KG state.
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Honestly I think it like the second he dies he gets back up. I don't honestly know enough to give a straight answer so don't take my word on it.SomebodyData said:
Doesn't the GEOM essence still operate even when incaped? Like isn't that why the atstronomican is still active even after 10,000 years of incap.
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I mean for what it's worth the Emperor is sure as HILF not a Saint.Newendigo said:
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@New Her aura has been described as being able to kill virtually everything that doesn't meet up to Doppel Tart's standards of absurd sense of morality. Tart is a 14th century French girl in the height of the era of morals.
@Glass, if this was KG, then it would have been closed via virtue of a stomp already, so no.
@Thatone I see, I guess we can wait for the verse's knowledge members to answer
@Glass, if this was KG, then it would have been closed via virtue of a stomp already, so no.
@Thatone I see, I guess we can wait for the verse's knowledge members to answer
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I know that it would be a stomp with that, but I'm asking if she has that ability in that weaker form.
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@Glass No, though its not relevant?
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