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Kratos vs Dante (16-8-1)

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Where's 6-D DMC coming from? Could've sworn it was 5-D until further notice.
 
Planck, ping some GoW supporters, so we can get their attention, smh.
Biggest DMC supporters are biggest GoW Supporters too (Gilver, Mister, Theglassman and me but I'm rusty with how DMC went by at the moment because of PoC)
 
Also real ******* quick, the entire "With his AD he went from Tier (insert here.) to Tier 1. AD shouldn't be judged on a static that is very easily liable to be removed and or changed which would make the feat non impressive.


Really should argue more so what he's capable of doing with it rather than using a random tier jump that again, is liable to change at any time.
Would honestly love if people actually listened to this. The amount of shit I've seen where people go well "Well he went from this tier to this tier, so he wins" in a lot of versus matches is asinine.
 
Social influence can mean its a win
Apparently, both of them have it, so I guess it cancels out.

Regarding the stamina thing, again I didn't find the feat about Kratos indexed in the profile, but if I have to go with KLOL's logic, then both of them will have essentially infinite stamina I guess since Dante also runs on demonic energy which is unlimited and he also didn't need to eat, sleep or drink during his fight with Vergil I guess.

Also, Kratos isn't touching Dante whatsoever, since after the VM feat he also upscales from Chen's feat who was tagging him but Dante was able to outmaneuver, plus he has analytical prediction to predict his movements and attacks. So Dante isn't getting tagged at all.

Plus Dante has AP and speed advantage due to amps.

Only, thing that decides the match now is sealing. If it doesn't works then incon.

Either Dante wins or its incon. There is no other way I see it.
 
Also, Kratos isn't touching Dante whatsoever, since after the VM feat he also upscales from Chen's feat who was tagging him but Dante was able to outmaneuver, plus he has analytical prediction to predict his movements and attacks. So Dante isn't getting tagged at all.
Dante ain't touching Kratos either because of that Invulnerability, not to mention Dante literally just lost CM Type 1 and had it negged down a notch to Type 2.

Plus Dante has AP and speed advantage due to amps.
What good are the amps if he can't even interact with Kratos?

Only, thing that decides the match now is sealing. If it doesn't works then incon.

Either Dante wins or its incon. There is no other way I see it.
That's assuming he doesn't try to make contact with Kratos, because if he makes contact, he's dead at the Type 1 level.
 
Beastheads BFR and precog👀
Inspired by GoW Yggdrasil wank were you

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Dante ain't touching Kratos either because of that Invulnerability, not to mention Dante literally just lost CM Type 1 and had it negged down a notch to Type 2.
You do realise Kratos is AE2 and CM3 right? Only Hope is CM1 and whatever resistances or haxes it bestows.

If Kratos was Hope itself then he would be CM1 and AE1. So yes he should be able to interact with Kratos CM3 just fine. Dante only can't interact with Hope.
 
You do realise Kratos is AE2 and CM3 right? Only Hope is CM1 and whatever resistances or haxes it bestows.

If Kratos was Hope itself then he would be CM1 and AE1. So yes he should be able to interact with Kratos CM3 just fine. Dante only can't interact with Hope.
Hope amplifies everything Kratos has to CM Type 1. Even his God self can harm Type 1 Concepts on physical contact (GOOD OLD THANATOS). Physicals, Powers, Resistances, all of it gets amped to the same level as Hope. Planck and I already went through this countless times.
 
If Kratos was Hope itself then he would be CM1 and AE1. So yes he should be able to interact with Kratos CM3 just fine. Dante only can't interact with Hope.
People kind of tend to forget that Kratos' AE2 is one of the most busted on the site and then end up misunderstanding it. He is effectively protected by an AE Type 1 force armed with CM Type 1 that doesn't let other AE Type 1 forces armed with CM Type 1 (Great Evils) more abstract than Type 1 AE Primordials (Also armed with CM Type 1) through to begin with. If it can't get through Hope, kiss any chance of physically touching Kratos goodbye. And this is ignoring the fact that Dante no longer has CM Type 1 anymore.

So yes, Gilver is right. Dante's only chance here is Sealing and BFR.
 
Hope amplifies everything Kratos has to CM Type 1. Even his God self can harm Type 1 Concepts on physical contact (GOOD OLD THANATOS). Physicals, Powers, Resistances, all of it gets amped to the same level as Hope. Planck and I already went through this countless times.
U do realise that Kratos is still AE2 and Dante should be able to interact with AE2.
AE2 can be interacted without interacting with the abstraction itself although can't be permanently killed if the abstraction is not affected(Which is CM1 and above Dante's pay grade). And Dante should be able to neg Kratos's Low Mid regen.
That's assuming he doesn't try to make contact with Kratos, because if he makes contact, he's dead at the Type 1 level.
But if Kratos's haxes are this strong then it would be best for Dante to avoid him. And Dante can sense power levels as explained in the physiology page. So he should be able to sense how dangerous Kratos is and avoid him. Plus speed amps and Analytical prediction should help him avoid Kratos until Dante seals.

Or its incon.
 
People kind of tend to forget that Kratos' AE2 is one of the most busted on the site and then end up misunderstanding it. He is effectively protected by an AE Type 1 force armed with CM Type 1 that doesn't let other AE Type 1 forces armed with CM Type 1 (Great Evils) more abstract than Type 1 AE Primordials (Also armed with CM Type 1) through to begin with. If it can't get through Hope, kiss any chance of physically touching Kratos goodbye. And this is ignoring the fact that Dante no longer has CM Type 1 anymore.

So yes, Gilver is right. Dante's only chance here is Sealing and BFR.
Ok, if it's this busted then sealing it is. I take back what I said before.
 
U do realise that Kratos is still AE2 and Dante should be able to interact with AE2.
AE2 can be interacted without interacting with the abstraction itself although can't be permanently killed if the abstraction is not affected(Which is CM1 and above Dante's pay grade). And Dante should be able to neg Kratos's Low Mid regen.
its Hope Aura which protects him.
Since the aura is CM1.....
 
U do realise that Kratos is still AE2 and Dante should be able to interact with AE2.
AE2 can be interacted without interacting with the abstraction itself although can't be permanently killed if the abstraction is not affected(Which is CM1 and above Dante's pay grade).
Not with Hope.

And Dante should be able to neg Kratos's Low Mid regen.
Read above.

But if Kratos's haxes are this strong then it would be best for Dante to avoid him. And Dante can sense power levels as explained in the physiology page. So he should be able to sense how dangerous Kratos is and avoid him.
Kratos can do the same with nothing but a glance. He'll realize immediately what Dante's wincons are and will adapt accordingly.
 
I don't really see how this isn't a mismatch, I tried this way back when and I don't know what changed from then till now (other than people making Hope way worse than before).


This match is just a redux of this one, the wincons argued in this thread are lackadaisical, it just screams "it's not a mismatch because". I've tried this and was told it just doesn't work, and nothing has changed from then till now with the arguments. If people want it added so much that dante sealing kratos is a valid wincon then so be it, but the match is legit dante dancing, prancing, and running for his life using everything in his arsenal until he has no other choice but to attempt to seal kratos, meanwhile kratos legit does anything and wins.

 
Btw how would Kratos fair against 6-D hax? The character I'm thinking of, however doesn't have as many haxxed abilities as Kratos.
 
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