Kratos (2018) Innate Resistances

[Theglassman12]

What exactly is the argument for immeasurable speed?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

How does being amped by the world tree makes him immeasurable? AFAIK the real three is the one trascendent of everything and what we see in game is the physical manifestation of it but I might be incorrect

 

[AxisPowerRanger]

The World Tree/Yggdrasil transcends space and time, along with numerous other concepts within the Norse realm. Kratos gets amps from the World Tree from its dew drops(?) located throughout the map.

So he is getting a physical amp that originates from a object that transcends space and time. This is essentially what gave Persona Immeasurable speed, as Shadows are an Archetype, which physically transcend space and time.

 

[AxisPowerRanger]

How does being amped by the world tree makes him immeasurable? AFAIK the real three is the one trascendent of everything and what we see in game is the physical manifestation of it but I might be incorrect

I don't recall that ever being stated. Far as I'm aware, what we see is the actual World Tree. Freya makes no comment otherwise to my recollection.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

I think it is wise to discuss this topic formally and with display of immaculate and solid evidence in another thread instead of discussing it here......

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

I don't like using Yggdrasil to justify anything in relevance to any of the characters in the Norse pantheon, because we still know nothing about it really. No one would scale to the world tree, because they are all bound to it. Attempting to give kratos immeasurable speed from dew amps, from a tree that is capable of erasing him on the spot, when he doesn't even remotely have any feats near immeasurable, makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Well, if that alone was enough for Persona then I have my problems with that, said amp shouldn't give such an important and hard to fit in verse speed without actual feats

What are Kratos feats at that level ?

 

[Planck69]

I will say that getting amped by an entity that transcends space and time is in no way an argument for Immeasurable speed. That's an issue Persona has to settle.

I'm neutral on Infinite though I can sorta see it happening with the Underworld stuff.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

This here is where Freya talks about the World Tree to Kratos and Atreus.

 

[AxisPowerRanger]

I will say that getting amped by an entity that transcends space and time is in no way an argument for Immeasurable speed. That's an issue Persona has to settle.

I'm neutral on Infinite though I can sorta see it happening with the Underworld stuff.

No no, I didn't mean as in Persona gets amps from another entity. I was just noting that Shadows physically transcending space and time was enough.

 

[AxisPowerRanger]

I don't like using Yggdrasil to justify anything in relevance to any of the characters in the Norse pantheon, because we still know nothing about it really. No one would scale to the world tree, because they are all bound to it. Attempting to give kratos immeasurable speed from dew amps, from a tree that is capable of erasing him on the spot, when he doesn't even remotely have any feats near immeasurable, makes no sense whatsoever.

They are only small amps, so it wouldn't mean Kratos is actually above the World Tree. Although I imagine he'll eventually scale above Thor, who will splinter it in his battle with Jor.

But if you don't feel like the drops aren't enough evidence, that's fine. Like I said, I was just looking for feedback on it and the Infinite speed scaling is what I'd try to ultimately argue for.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Infinite was "Possibly" before, and that miffed people beyond belief before. If that returned, we wouldn't hear the end of it, feats or not. I believe MFTL+ is far more consistent anyway, and infinite would AT BEST just be a "Possibly" again.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Anyway, the purpose of this thread is complete. Giving kratos his innate resistances was agreed on by everyone taking part in the thread. @Theglassman12 Would you consider this thread concluded?

 

[Axxtentacle]

Isn’t there statements from the creator saying they can’t portray Kratos’ strength accurately because it wouldn’t make sense with the game?

 

[Planck69]

There are actually. A couple in fact IIRC.

 

[Theglassman12]

I'd say it's fine to add.

 

[Axxtentacle]

Either way, that’s for a different thread, this should be closed since it’s done.

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

Yeah this is concluded, this can be closed and proposed changes added.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

There was a video that talked about Cory Barlog(?) speaking about how portraying Krato's more higher up strength/power feats would make him steamroll like 90% of the things he goes through each game, hence why they don't always portray it at all times else he'd just outright destroy everything he touches like the chests you open for HP and mana.

I forgot how he said it but it was along those lines iirc. But that's for another topic, I assume. The main purpose of this thread, unless someone brings up an opposing reason to disagree comes, is complete.

 

[Theglassman12]

You should call a content mod or an admin to unlock Kratos’ page to add the resistances.

 

[Lilixa]

guys i suggest we should look any resistance he has in Norse myth before adding resistance from his greek counterpart

 

[Lilixa]

My concern is there are a lot magic and abilities from Norse game which 'not list in his 2018 profile.

God of War Enchantments Guide - Enchantment Perks, Unique Enchantments, Where To Find (Rare, Legendary, Epic)

The God of War 4 Guide below details all the possible acquirable Enchantments that will help you get a boost in your various stats and attributes for

segmentnext.com

Best God of War Armor Sets, Ranked

God of War features several Armor sets that Kratos can equip throughout his journeys in the nine realms. Each armor set is unique from a visual standpoint

segmentnext.com

God of War (2018): All Talismans List

A list of all God of War Talismans with their stats and unique skills. View every Talisman in GOW 2018 in this complete list.

www.powerpyx.com

God of War (2018): All Axe Pommels

A list of all God of War Axe Pommels with Stats and images. View every Leviathan Axe Pommel in GOW 2018 with their perks and showcase.

www.powerpyx.com

God of War (2018): All Blades Pommels

A list of all God of War Blades Pommels with Stats and images. View every Blades of Chaos Pommel in GOW 2018 with their perks and showcase.

www.powerpyx.com

God of War - All Runic Attack Locations (Runes)

A list of all God of War Runic Attacks and their locations. Find every Runic Attack Location in GOW 2018 with this rune guide.

www.powerpyx.com

And there are Unity Stone which give Kratos existence erasure resistance although it should be noted Unity stone isn't Kratos standard equipment

 

[Lilixa]

There is some Infinite speed scaling based on Interviews and in-game descriptions. Such as the Underworld and other areas being described as "Infinite" in the guides and Hermès' light being able to light up the Underworld. I'd have to dig it all up, since it has been a sec since I've touched GoW scaling.

Additionally, you could get him to Immeasurable since he does get physical amps from the World Tree that transcends everything space and time and among other things in each of its strands. This is essentially what gave Persona Immeasurable speed by scaling off of Archetypes.

Yeah i don't like this too. This one needs more legit feats...

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I believe we should keep the original intention here, sure Kratos needs revisions, but this is just to add already accepted Resistances from the Greek games, after that we make one to add new ones from the Norse Game

 

[Lilixa]

Also there are new God of War Comic which set in between God of War 3 and God of War Norse.

 

[Galens]

Fully agree with the update for innate resistances

 

[Lilixa]

I believe we should keep the original intention here, sure Kratos needs revisions, but this is just to add already accepted Resistances from the Greek games, after that we make one to add new ones from the Norse Game

well i am fine with this....

after that we add new ones from Norse series including :

• The game itself
• God of War Card game
• God of War 2018 Novel.
• God of War Strategy guide book.
• and possibly new God of War Comics

 

[Shmooply]

I think a discussion thread would be far better for the other additions.

 

[Theglassman12]

We can make another CRT to add more stuff to norse kratos. Right now the intent for the thread is basically concluded so we might as well add the changes and finish it.

 

[Lilixa]

I agree then. This thread can be closed.

 

[Shmooply]

Before this thread closes, I've made a discussion thread that's about adding things to Norse Kratos' profile.

 

[Antvasima]

I have unlocked the Kratos (Norse Mythology) page. Tell me here when you are done.

 

[Theglassman12]

I added the resistances to his page, this thread should be closed now.