Knack vs Salem

[Schnee_One]

This should have been done already, but I might as well try.

Speed is Equal. 1.43 megatons for Salem, 6.3 megatons for Knack (Baseline 7B), battle in the artic.

Salem: 2

Knack:

Incon: 1

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Probably Inconclusive, since neither can kill each other.

DAE think Salem is a second coming of Ryuko?

 

[Schnee_One]

God no

Anyway, counted

 

[TriforcePower1]

>Salem is Low 7-B

So close...

 

[Schnee_One]

Why isn't he 7B+?

 

[TriforcePower1]

Ask Dragon. I know nothing about SC.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Tbh I feel like my vote was too lazy to be counted, so I'll add a bit of stuff

Assuming Salem, who's near baseline Low 7-B to Knack's baseline 7-B, can't unbind his relics by hitting the blue orb, she shouldn't be able to do any harm to Knack. But since she has regen of her own (Low-High at that), Knack won't be able to take her down either.

 

[Schnee_One]

Why can't she do harm to knack?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

What are the mechanics behind his High-Mid regen? Just curious.

 

[Schnee_One]

Dunno

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Salem turns him into a crushed ball of Knack parts suspended in the air that cant fight back

 

[Schnee_One]

More plz

 

[WeeklyBattles]

She uses TK to crush him into a ball like she did with the Nevermore and suspends him in midair

 

[Schnee_One]

Okay I guess.

Still unsure how AP interacts with TK

 

[Wokistan]

TK goes off of LS unless it doesn't.

Idk what happens here, though. There's probably a way to calc compressive force and apply it to dura.

 

[Schnee_One]

BTW can knack switch into any of his forms on the fly or does he get stuck with one?

Someone get ovens

 

[ZellTemplar55]

Salem FRA

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Knack switches between forms when the materials needed for said form is present around him. Like Ice Knack can only form when there's ice around him to absorb. Also, Knack has TK of his own that works on his relics.

Which reminds me, I should probably upgrade Knack's lifting strength considering he lifted a building sized character.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Class 100 TK vs a massive scaling chain with a Class K feat as a base

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Also, the orb has CIty level dura and is by no means easier to destroy than his other relics. Even after seperating from damage to the orb, Knack reformed within seconds.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Knack is held together by magic is he not?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

It's not magic. It's relic energy. It's more akin to chi than it is to magic. It's like his soul energy.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I see

Salem may be weaker but not weak enough that she cant just pin him in place and destroy his core given a little time

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Considering the fact that Salem's TK would ragdoll Knack harder than a dog in a washing machine, she could take this if she opens with it.

 

[Schnee_One]

Just to be sure does Knack have win con?

I assumed he could freeze

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Knack would have to be in an ice environment to actually become Ice Knack, or at the very least have a supply of ice lying around to add to his mass.

 

[Schnee_One]

I could set it in the arctic tbf

 

[Sir_Ovens]

That would be best actually, he doesn't really have a way to deal with her regen.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

So uh Knack now scales to 12.51 Megatons of TNT at minimum and 38.79 Megatons of TNT at most.