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Scenario: Kiritsugu finds about an ancient clan of magical underground monsters discovers they are planning to use the souls of children and take revenge on humanity. Lives of billions > lives of thousands so kiritsugu takes it apon himself to do a genocide run and save the many. Sans is disgusted by emiyas twisted hero of justice murder mentality and eventually faces him in the judgement hall.

-Speed equal
-Both can prepare
-SBA otherwise

Morally devoid magus killer (0.03 tons for base): 2
Morally sound child killer (>0.024t for tk slam): 0
Inconclusive: 0
 
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Magic is 4-D. Kiritsugu resists magic, making his resistances 4-D.

TK is based on the soul from Sans, so...
Oh, i was about to say that removing avalon might make it more fair, but do you mean kiritsugu would outright resist being thrown?
 
Oh, i was about to say that removing avalon might make it more fair, but do you mean kiritsugu would outright resist being thrown?
Yeah, it's weird though, you could say it's possible Sans could TK throw, but eh, using TK to outright harm someone is Sans's literal last move except keeping them in place.

And Kiritsugu's Accels basically just give him the capability to UTTERLY blitz Sans, even before he gets updated to Relativistic+
 
I removed avalon and gave both prep. Accels would be more of a counter to sans reactions which sans would have to take a whole new approach against like keeping kerry away long enough to tk slam him to death if he can do that (but bullets are still dangerous).

Otherwise ill count the vote just incase this isnt still a total mismatch.
 
I removed avalon and gave both prep. Accels would be more of a counter to sans reactions which sans would have to take a whole new approach against like keeping kerry away long enough to tk slam him to death if he can do that (but bullets are still dangerous).

Otherwise ill count the vote just incase this isnt still a total mismatch.
Okay Sans still can't kill Frisk with his TK and Kiritsugu is arguably worse then fighting Frisk cause, ya know, 4-D soul resistance
 
Frisks last ounce of 1 hp mustve gained 4D resistance at the end of the fight 😞 Dang.
 
Yeah? Because sans's 9-A attack is not as strong as Asriels 2-B attacks so we needed more DT 💀
That's the thing, we were 9-A there, not at peak DT, CRT limited invulnerability onto their profile if you wanna argue this.
 
Something to note is that frisk scales far above 0.24 tons through chains and kireis 0.3 ton attack was still enough to seriously damage kiritsugu and kill him if not for avalon.
 
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