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Kirby's Low 1-C Discussion of sorts

Another Dimension is the key to warrant an upgrade for the entire verse. There is evidence proving tier 2 stuff (according to our good friend Eficiente at least). The tier 1 stuff, however, looks a little shaky even though I am not at all experienced in tier 1 material.

Upgrading Kirby beyond the confines of tier 4 is certainly a dream for me, as long as it's plausible and fair however. Making him the next tier up, 3-C, would even be enough.
 
i have read through the blog and tbh i feel like it might be enough. Either way an attempt ain't torture, we just need to do sth and with the countless statements about it being "extra-dimension" or "transcending time and space" and with it having many mentions of how time works differently there and stuff i feel like it may quite just be legit.
 
Sure it is. The blog Peptocoptr027 made has a lot going into it and therefore is a valiant effort, it's admirable. Though, I will say that I am doubtful this might get anywhere far to the point where it might warrant an upgrade on that level. Tier 2 is honestly far more likely and plausible when it comes to this verse.

But, a thread's a thread. We'll see the verdict soon enough.
 
yeah hopefully. Tbh i feel like we will never see tier 2. We keep waiting for the guides and i looked for them too, even in japanese, though they are there they are only for sale and seem to be out of stock...i wonder if there is a copy of it in some japanese library though.
 
the only other option is to wait for the next game. Ugh, my B-day is coming up and i was hoping kirby at least would be announced by then, instead we are just laying there, knowing we may get some pokemon games and splatoon 3 in 2022
 
Peptocoptr27 said:
Too soon. I did not want to share this just yet... Since it's already out there, I guess I'll have to join in and defend my stance, but I really wasn't planning to discuss this right now.
I'll say some stuff tommorow.
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Darn, it looks like others have found it before you were ready to reveal it. I don't really care what the conclusion is so I will leave you to it here. Good luck!
 
EMagoIorSouI said:
Sure it is. The blog Peptocoptr027 made has a lot going into it and therefore is a valiant effort, it's admirable. Though, I will say that I am doubtful this might get anywhere far to the point where it might warrant an upgrade on that level. Tier 2 is honestly far more likely and plausible when it comes to this verse.

But, a thread's a thread. We'll see the verdict soon enough.
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Thank you. I'm glad people are at least taking this seriously. I've seen other tier 1 upgrades with alot of effort and evidence be laughed at and dismissed in the past. I'm even more pleasently surprised to see so many people are neutral on these upgrades, with one of them even seemingly leaning towards agreement.
Like I said at the end of my blog, I would rather have Kirby at tier 2 than tier 1, but I genuinely think tier 1 makes more sense. No matter which one people end up agreeing with, Kirby top tiers need to gain keys above thier current 4-A ones, Even if said keys are accompanied with the word "Likely" or "Pôssibly" until we get comfirmation from the japanese guides.
 
Agree with the upgrade for now at least as "possibly" or "likely"
But I am not ver confined in that get accepted, I have a strong feeling Eficiente is someone wouldn't accepte that
 
Everyone: Starting to agree with the thread and everything is going well

Eficiente probably as soon as he catches wind of this:

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A dimension beyond space and time

An extra dimension and an extra-dimensional road beyond the space-time continuum

An extra-dimensional road that transcends space-time

"Another world beyond time and dimension" (時も次元も超えて、別の世界に通じちゃうから). (If this refers to one specific universe in Another Dimension rather than Another Dimension itself, this this has major implications to the size of the cosmology)
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Once again, the Extra Dimension is literally comfirmed to be beyond the space-time continuum itself (and it should go without saying that Kirby's universe, which is what the road is stated to transcend, is in fact 4D). It's even said to be extra-dimensional in the exact same pause screen description. At this point, it would be absurd not to take the satements seriously. Kirby cosmology definitively classifies as low 1-C going by the our own standards.
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All of these statements are extremely vague and don't even necessarily have to refer to the Another Dimension or the Extra-Dimlensional Road existing on a level which is qualitatively superior to the universe.

All of them can just as easily refer to the two of them being alternate planes of existence that exist apart from the normal universe without being superior to it in any way that would result in a Low 1-C rating, just like people can say something lies "Beyond this door" without having to make reference to a higher plane of existence which completely transcends the door. Interpreting them as such is not interpreting them as flowery language at all, because those terms simply don't necessarily align with Tier 1 ratings to begin with, context is extremely relevant in cases like this, and from what I've seen of these scans, it's something that Kirby severely lacks.

It binds all of space and time together. We already know that the Extra Dimension is the space between dimensions, but not only does it connect those dimensions to each other on a 3D scale, but on a 4D scale as well.
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Why would connecting alternate realities together qualify as Low 1-C, exactly? This seems like something that would only work as supporting evidence which takes the arguments above as a basis, but not as the main body of the argument.
 
Ultima_Reality said:
All of them can just as easily refer to the two of them being alternate planes of existence that exist apart from the normal universe without being superior to it in any way that would result in a Low 1-C rating
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Ultima_Reality said:
Interpreting them as such is not interpreting them as flowery language at all, because those terms simply don't necessarily align with Tier 1 ratings to begin with
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That's correct. I know other verses are and aim to be Tier 1 for less but just saying those words (transcend and be beyond space-time) doesn't cut it, I wish our Tiering and its FQA could make that extra clear, as people can come in and believe otherwise.
 
anyway lets wait for Peptocoptr27 to get ready and edit the blog further before we close the thread
 
Pink999999 said:
Wait
The blog is incomplete?
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it isn't incomplete, quoting Peptocoptr27 here: "Alright. Thanks. I don't think it should take too long. I just need to finish a debate I've started with an online friend who's a Kirby expert and edit my blog accordingly."
 
Reaper, you need to stop this.

Stop making controversial CRTs for verses you don't follow and aren't knowledgeable in. You're just causing pointless drama before anyone is willing or ready to debate the changes you propose. The blog isn't even complete yet for ***** sake.

Should I close this until the blog is ready?
 
DaReaperMan said:
it isn't incomplete, quoting Peptocoptr27 here: "Alright. Thanks. I don't think it should take too long. I just need to finish a debate I've started with an online friend who's a Kirby expert and edit my blog accordingly."
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If he needs to add sone things first, then it sound incomplete to me. Which you would know if you asked permission to make this before hand and you evidently didn't judging by the earlier comments.
 
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