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Kirby (universe) revisions

...huh. Luckily, that doesn't change my point, as Spectacle Space is definitely in Kirby's universe as you said, and the World of Drawcia is after that.

Also, I'm honestly questioning how could Dedede and Kracko be there if it was in Drawcia's universe. Seems to me that Kirby got thrown back into his own world after Drawcia cursed him. Also, even the first level is stated to be in Kirby's home universe. Plant Plain is an alternate version of Vegetable Valley.
 
Yes, Spectacle Space is Kirby's universe. The World of Drawcia is not the world of paint. It is Drawcia's separate world.
 
I'd agree if Drawcia wasn't found in a totally different plane when fought, for the world.
 
The thing is, Drawcia did want to create a world of paint using Kirby's world as a canvas. That's canonically her goal (also, Drawcia's universe is contained within just one painting). And she already got through Spectacle Space. So the universe definition outweighs the planet definition for world.
 
She's not, though. She's just inside a painting inside the world. The World of Drawcia is the name of the entire area. On top of that, if we assume everything takes place in Kirby's universe (sans the World of Drawcia), the entire adventure minus Spectacle Space takes place on Popstar. We still only see Drawcia's influence spread throughout its galaxy.
 
Fair enough, but Drawcia's goal, in which she succeeded at, and the fact that she did do the Spectacle Space feat for Kirby's universe (which instantly reversed upon her defeat), seems to imply that at the very least, she would've done it.
 
Possibly but again, the problem is we have no sort of timeframe. We do know she was quickly able to transform Popstar's galaxy (as it is that way near the end of Kirby's journey), but that's already within the "At least 4-A" she already has.
 
Even taking billions of years would've meant 3-B, and that's assuming she didn't do it while Kirby was travelling. Plus, it still would've all been reversed upon her defeat.
 
Again, that's the problem of saying she would have or could have when he have no time frame. The best we have is that she quickly transfomed a galaxy, whereas anything beyond that relies on immense amounts of speculation.
 
I wouldn't say immense. It literally just means that we use one other definition of world, which is possible, given that it's not the traditional one. Everything else is given. Drawcia wanting to create a world of paint is given, and her quick transmutation of a galaxy is given. Only other speculation is timeframe, which no matter what lowball is still 3-B, and if she succeeded or not, which isn't as important as it sounds.
 
I'm fairly certain we don't tier based on "speculation on what this character possibly could have done assuming they weren't stopped". We need something more substantial than that for such a tier jump.
 
We do though... Only time I haven't seen it used was with Zamasu, and that's because it required him to consistently gain power.
 
Based on what?

We have this info.

  • Drawcia wanted to make a world of paint
  • Drawcia transformed Kirby's galaxy into paint over a short period of time
  • Drawcia then spent the rest of her time in her own world before being defeated
That is not enough to say "Drawcia is Multi-Galaxy level".
 
We don't know if she spent the rest of the time in her own world, given that it explicitly defies he goal and especially considering how he can whisk herself there at any time.
 
It would be the same timeframe, given that Kirby's still hunting her. And even then, again, it all is reversed upon her defeat. She's still a minimum of 3-C.
 
3-C would be due to the fact that it's instantly reversed. Remember that she controls all that is her painting.
 
Well, you agree that she could've/did possibly painted all of Kirby's universe according to her goal, right?

Wait, why are we denying her goal feat in the first place, given that it's the plot? Aside from the fact that I'm under the belief that I believe Kirby got sent back to his world after being cursed by Drawcia, it's still her goal to turn Kirby's world into paint. If it took her a billion years, then it'd be 3-B. I'm not getting that much.
 
Because:

  • There is no direct statement that she was capable of transforming the entire universe.
  • There are no feats going beyond Popstar's galaxy.
  • Her feats in-game are high-end 4-A.
That is not enough to justify a jump to 3-B.
 
It depends on the interpretation of "world". Technically, there's no statement for infinite universes in Digimon, just "worlds", but it's quite obvious that universes was meant.
 
Well they use infinte timelines and possibilities in that quote if I remember correctly. However, of course we use "All World's" as an indication as well. Not that it matters. Just Dragon being petty. ovo
 
Yeah, because in the context they talk about parallel timelines and versions of oneself. That is not the case, here.
 
I was looking for the Mangas in which she appears (õ╗╗Õñ®ÕáéÕà¼Õ╝ÅÒé¼ÒéñÒâëÒâûÒââÒé» Òé┐ÒââÒâü´╝ü Òé½Òâ╝ÒâôÒéú, µÿƒÒü«Òé½Òâ╝ÒâôÒéú! ÒééÒÇ£ÒéîÒüñÒâùÒâùÒâùÒéóÒâ»Òâ╝! and µÿƒÒü«Òé½Òâ╝ÒâôÒéú! ÒééÒÇ£ÒéîÒüñÒâùÒâùÒâùÒéóÒâ»Òâ╝!) until I find that we could add her this small hax.
 
I thought it was Drawcia, I'm not sure why that was in the Kirby Canvas Curse part.
 
I know that. Do we have any pages for his Mangas? Kirby has had more than 100 different incarnations and I only find a 75% of that, mostly in Japanese.
 
@Azzy. I doubt the context of the use of the word "world" is used for "an area slightly larger than a galaxy"
 
I agree with Cal. Drawcia's World is mentioned game after game, as Drawcia's vision of a perfect world. It is very unlikely that it would refeer to only some stars or a single galaxy.

"Suddenly, the world's colors warp, and a strange witch arises! Drawing in the air, the witch turns the land into a painting." — Introduction • Kirby: Canvas Curse

"She wished for a world all of paint..." — Ending • Kirby: Canvas Curse

"This powerful sorceress once turned Kirby into a rolling pink ball and Dream Land into a world made of paint. Her name is awfully similar to that of Claycia's, but no one knows for sure if the two are related." — Figurine description • Kirby and the Rainbow Curse

"Getup inspired by an unknown painting. The witch who wore it is said to have transformed the world itself into a work of art." — Drawcian Garb description • Team Kirby Clash Deluxe
 
That last one is most important, as it explicitly states that she succeeded.
 
@DarkLordofShadows Added to that a supposed Nintendo official guidebook for Kirby Canvas Curse states that Drawcia did that because she was jealous of the real world, "real world" probably referring to the reality itself. At any moment I am going to receive an image to verify that.
 
I found something that might be useful. I've seen it on JP Kirby wikia, it might be useful...

"『Òé┐ÒââÒâü´╝ü Òé½Òâ╝ÒâôÒéú』Òü½Òâ®Òé╣Òâ£Òé╣Òü¿ÒüùÒüªÕêØþÖ╗Õá┤ÒÇéþÅ¥Õ«ƒõ©ûþòîÒü«Õ¡ÿÕ£¿Òü½Õ½ëÕª¼Òüù[1]ÒÇüÒâùÒâùÒâùÒâ®Òâ│ÒâëÒéÆþÁÁÒü«õ©ûþòîÒü½ÕñëÒüêÒüªÒüùÒü¥ÒüúÒüƒÚ¡öÕÑ│ÒüºÒÇüþÁÁþö╗õ©ûþòîÒü«µö»ÚàìÞÇàÒÇé

1.『õ╗╗Õñ®ÕáéÕà¼Õ╝ÅÒé¼ÒéñÒâëÒâûÒââÒé» Òé┐ÒââÒâü´╝ü Òé½Òâ╝ÒâôÒéú』Õ░ÅÕ¡ªÚñ¿ p.112"

and this, that seems to be a Game-Pause Description:

"VSÒÇÇÒâëÒâ¡ÒéÀÒéó þÁÁþö╗õ©ûþòîÒéƵö»ÚàìÒüÖÒéïÒÇÇÒâëÒâ¡ÒéÀÒéó´╝ü µ£ÇÕ¥îÒü«µêªÒüäÒüîÒÇÇÒüñÒüäÒü½ÕºïÒü¥Òéï´╝ü´╝ü"

I dunno what does it means but it could help I guess...
 
Not sure what time it is in Japan, but soon I will receive the first one of those.
 
I'd like to add this as well. Again, from Kirby JP yada yada.

This time, Galacta Knight:

About his dimensional attack: "µÖéþòîÕñºµû¼Úûâ(『Òâ¡Òâ£ÒâùÒâ®』Òü«Òü┐) þ®║ÚûôÒéÆÕêçÒéèÞúéÒüäÒüªÒÇüÒüØÒüôÒüïÒéëÞÁñÒüäþò░þ®║ÚûôÒéÆÚúøÒü│Õç║ÒüòÒüøÒüªÒâôÒâ╝ÒâáÒü«ÒéêÒüåÒü½µö╗µÆâÒüÖÒéïÒÇéþò░þ®║ÚûôÒü«õ©¡Òü½Òü»µÑÁÒü¥ÒéîÒü½Òâ¡Òâ╝ÒéóÒéÆÞªïÒéïÒüôÒü¿ÒüîÒüºÒüìÒéïÒÇéÒé┐ÒéñÒâáÒéóÒé┐ÒââÒé»ÒüºÒü»ÒüôÒü«µèÇÒéÆÕç║ÒüòÒéîÒéïÕëìÒü½ÕÇÆÒüÖÒüôÒü¿ÒüºÕñºÒüìÒüÅÒé┐ÒéñÒâáÒéÆþ©«ÒéüÒéïÒüôÒü¿ÒüîÒüºÒüìÒéïÒÇé"

Galacta Knight's Game-Pause Description in Planet Robobot: "ÒüØÒü«ÕèøÒéåÒüê ÒüèÒüØÒéîÒéëÒüªÒüìÒüƒÒÇüÕà¿ÒüªÒéÆ Òü╗ÒéìÒü╝Òüù ÒüïÒü¡Òü¬Òüä ÕÅñÒü«ÕëúÕú½ÒÇéÒé»Òâ¡Òâ╝Òâ│ÒüºÒü»Òü¬ÒüÅÒÇüµ£¬þƒÑÒü¬Òéï þò░þ®║ÚûôÒâ¡Òâ╝ÒâëÒüïÒéë µÖéþ®║ÒéÆÒüôÒüê ÒéêÒü│ÒüòÒü¥ÒüòÒéîÒüƒÒÇé µºÿÒüûÒü¥Òü¬µÖéõ╗úÒüº ÒüÁÒüåÒüäÒéô ÒüòÒéîÒüªÒüìÒüƒ ÒüìÒéìÒüÅÒüî µ«ïÒéïÒüîÒÇüÒüùÒéçÒüåÒéüÒüñ ÒüòÒüøÒéïÒüôÒü¿Òü» ÒüºÒüìÒüªÒüäÒü¬ÒüäÒÇé"

RBP GalactaKnight01
 
@Eficiente

That's a neat name tho

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@DarkLordofShadows Thank, it's just the translation, um... please don't ignore the waves, they could be important(?).
 
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