Kirby (universe) revisions

[DarkLordofShadows]

I've found another feat that Drawcia might have done, I'd like to show this. Not sure if it is quantifiable tho...

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Just a speed feat.

 

[DarkLordofShadows]

@Cal

I was talking about that gray wall that's behind you...

It vaguely resembles the one in Return to Dreamland...

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I could see it as existence erasure hax.

 

[Eficiente]

That seems like more solid evidence to justify Drawcia being Multi-Solar System (I don't saying that the one she have is bad) we should add that to her page, Kirby and MK can survive touch that or they die instantly?

 

[DarkLordofShadows]

They survive. In the video, he touches that wall repeatedly.

 

[Eficiente]

So: Drawcia new information and hax, Kirby, Waddle Dee, Waddle Doo, DDD and MK resistance to that, Claycia gain at least time manipulation (although teared a hole in time/space sounds... beyond 4-A?) and resistance to time manipulation to Kirby and possibly MK for that and the Time world deep flash of Galacta Knight.

That for now, any comments?

 

[DarkLordofShadows]

bump

 

[Eficiente]

I have a question, shouldn't all the helpers be ranked as Multi-Solar Sistem for being able to defeat DDD and MK? The calc of Knucke Joe is good and everything, but compare the pages of the helpers with the reasons why Bandana Dee is at that level.

Or a different key for they normal and Helpers.

 

[Kirbyelmejor]

I have a question, shouldn't all the helpers be ranked as Multi-Solar Sistem for being able to defeat DDD and MK? The calc of Knucke Joe is good and everything, but compare the pages of the helpers with the reasons why Bandana Dee is at that level.
Or a different key for they normal and Helpers.

The helpers defeating DDD and MK are outliers. Also, Bandana is MSS because he can overpower the hands of Dark Crafter

 

[Eficiente]

@Kirbyelmejor That's why I mention the different key, those helper are created by Kirby with a strength and durability superior to them as normal enemies, does that count?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah. Outliers. Along with defeating Wham Bam Jewel, which is a large reason this thread exists. Also, Azzy never returned to this... ovo

 

[Eficiente]

"Kirby's not the only hero! Helpers can be heroes, too! We'll prove it in an all-star battle!" That does't sound like an outlier. Also, what's the point of creating a Helper or being a Helper if you can't, well, help. They have a very big limit on what they can or can't do being planet level.

But most importantly... Giving the crazy assumption that Helper to Hero will return in the next Kirby game, will we consider that an outlier too?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Not all heroes wear capes.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump 4 Azzy.

Like stated before, everything rode on if she succeeded or if she was going to succeed if Kirby didn't stop her, and it was confirmed that she did succeed.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

and it was confirmed that she did succeed.

You mean when she turned Dreamland into a painting? Yes. She succeeded in that.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

A-are you patronizing me, Azzy? ovo. Jk jk. I kid. Anyway,

Dream Land isn't even a planet, let alone a galaxy. So "world" isn't referring to that. Also...

"Getup inspired by an unknown painting. The witch who wore it is said to have transformed the world itself into a work of art." — Drawcian Garb description • Team Kirby Clash Deluxe

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Dream Land + Popstar, though. The wiki quote used for Spectacle Space being Popstar's galaxy even states that Dream Land and Popstar's transformation was her "world of paint".

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Hm?

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

"Spectacle Space is what became of Planet Popstar's galaxy when Drawcia turned Dream Land into a world of paint."

That one.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Those two things vastly differ from each other. Drawcia in the ending wished for a world of paint, and she succeeded in it given descriptions of later games.

I want the Japanese translation of that ending...

 

[Eficiente]

What a Wiki says does't matter, the Japanese says it's the universe.

>I want the Japanese translation of that ending...

Working on that.

 

[Eficiente]

I have this thing and I can't translate it. Maybe there is a galaxy there, or just one star bigger than the others with similar formation of space around it, opinions?

 

[Eficiente]

I received that. She was "Jealous of the existence of the real world" (þÅ¥Õ«ƒõ©ûþòîÒü«Õ¡ÿÕ£¿Òü½Õ½ëÕª¼Òüù). So we have the "real world" and the world of painting. There's also the fact that the word "world" goes a little beyond that from early levels of the game as is seen that she warp the sun with a Kirby-shape. What is necessary for us to consider the "real world" referring to reality itself?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

That would normally be the universe in most cases...

 

[Eficiente]

Can I suggest then a "possibly 3-A" be added only to Drawcia and ignore that for now in Kirby's case?

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

Can I suggest then a "possibly 3-A" be added only to Drawcia and ignore that for now in Kirby's case?

I say she should be a 3-C, she was the one who turned Planet Popstar's galaxy into paint.

 

[Eficiente]

@EMagoIorSouI Only the Wiki mentions a galaxy, either she is 3-A or 4-A.

 

[Antvasima]

This thread seems to have been dealt with previously, so perhaps it should be closed.