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Duedate8898 said:
Hmm, while all three demons do demonstrate some properties of lightning with their attacks, the first one could just be demonstrating electricity which has different speeds especially since it only ever fits 1,2, and 3. The second one suffers because its straight up just a breathing art, which we have no direct confirmation becomes real when a demon is using it. This means that quite a bit of what we're seeing could just be what we're normally seeing when a demon slayer uses one of their forms. Not only that, but all of these attacks require that Kaigaku strike Zenitsu so its just that more dubious in the regards of whether of its lightning or not. The third demon, I haven't seen enough to judge.
Also I still do think its dubious whether or not the Kaigaku's Breathing Art has been turned into actual lightning since all we seem to get is heat from his attacks without any of the shocking that would naturally come with electricity much less lightning.
 
Bump can anyone tell me how on Earth Kaigaku and Sekido have sufficient proof to be lightning speed?

Also lumping together the traits of two different types of lightning isn't good enough justification.
 
> The second one suffers because its straight up just a breathing art, which we have no direct confirmation becomes real when a demon is using it.

This is a good point.

The Breathing Arts aren't actual elements.
 
Did UM1s breathing technique become a real thing? or was the blade his demon power and the slashes had been his breathing technique (which would have been air-slashes in that case)?

That wouldnt really mean anything for the lightning though since im still not convinced any of the lightning in KnY should be treated like real one.
 
"A slashing attack that cracks your skin!! And flesh!! And burns them!!"

Implies that the cracking is not the same as the burning. Cracking the skin however, is something that happens with electricity based burns.
 
Huh. That's weird. Does this mean that Kaigaku would have Durability Negation to a degree since the cracks he makes with attacks will rip up his target over time?
 
Ok

1. BoS tier characters like Tanjirou, Inosuke and base Nezuko get downgraded to transonic perhaps supersonic and Zenitsu gets downgraded to Hypersonic+. Swamp Demon would be peak human with at least subsonic+ reaction speed.

2. None of the characters will be MHS. Characters above BoS Zenitsu will be At Least Hypersonic+.

Also as a side thing some calculations came through and Pillar tier characters will be 8C whole top tiers like Upper Moon 1, Marked Gyomei and Muzan will be 8B+
 
If the drumm demon who uses lightning meets 3 of the standards of real lightning it would be fine to use it.

The demon slayer who got turned into Moon Lightning should also be rated as the same because of the fact that they both use blood demon magic.

I don't agree somewhat with using the breathing skills as well elements unless they show actual evidence. Breath of Lightning is the closed to showing real evidence but it's not enough

In regard to the original post I don't agree with Point 3 because of the fact that it could easily just be PIS and cinematic timing.
 
The drum demon doesn't use lightning his attacks are speed of sound as stated in the manga.

The two Lightning attacks aren't the same they inherently have differing effects on people and the traits they display are at most two each.
 
I probably got the two demons confused. The demon that calls down lightning is who I was referring too.

What are the effects they display on people? If they are effects of real life lightning it's fine. They both are blood demon lightning magic.

The drum demon is the one who uses lightning also. He can use the abilities of everyone he had absorbed
 
Sekido merely hurts people and they are stunned while getting hit. He's also displayed a lightning like shape.

Kiagaku causes people's skin to crack open. The properties he has are conductivity and lightning shape along with unknown amounts of heat that seem to have no visible effect on people.

Kaigaku has black lightning as well their attacks are complete different.
 
The color of the lightning doesn't matter at all. Also Sekido basically states his Lightning has conductivity when he said his Lightning can't pass through anything made of his cells.

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Btw color isn't on the Lightning criteria page at all
Here's what we have; paralysis, conductivity, Lightning shape, heat. These all fall under blood demon Lightning because they both originate from blood demon magic.

Fortunately Sekido's Lightning meets 3 of the criteria
 
The colour indicates they're different along with their effects. Sekido being unable to damage himself doesn't equal conductivity.

Their lightning isn't the same if they were Sekido would've been cracking Tanjirou's skin when he hit him all those times.

Sekido at best meets two criteria the shape and paralysis when his attacks are flowing through someone. Kaigaku's heat is unknown and displays no visible effects on people.
 
The issue with Sekido saying his lightning can't pass through anything made of his cells is that this is more likely a property of his demon status then being conductive in general, especially sine he empahsizes his own cells and no natural insulator. This could just as easily be magical electricity instead of magical lightning.
 
Sekido literally states his Lightning can't pass through anything that is made of his cells.

That is a clear indication that his Lightning can be conducted but why ignore it?

We aren't talking about damage lol. Don't use damage in this context. We are talking about him saying that his Lightning can't be conducted using his cells.
 
That could just be a property of his own body, it can't really be used as support since most biological creatures are actual conductive of electricty. It's more likely that his own demon blood art can't affect him.
 
Duedate8898 said:
That could just be a property of his own body, it can't really be used as support since most biological creatures are actual conductive of electricty. It's more likely that his own demon blood art can't affect him.
Like how Nezuko can't burn herself and is unaffected by her flames
 
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