Yes, is really just a name change that don't have any other effect, and even despite be something so small there was this much reaction, is honestly something surprising.
That sound cool and all but can you actually post those fights to watch them? Because I don't know how much longer those fighters lasted fighting under those circunstances and I also don't know how intense their fights were while in that situations. Lets remember that in the Andy Bowen vs Jack Burke the latter continued fighting for
hours with all the bones from his hands broken, lets also remember that in the James Kelly vs Jonathan Smith the former was continue to fight for
hours while bleeding from the head, and lets also remember that at the end of both fights all the fighters were covered in blood (which mean that they likely where suffering from
anaemia) from all wounds accumulated through the several hours, all of this injuries that don't recover from one minute of rest each dozen or so minutes, which mean that aside from let them catch their breath and gather some strength again this one minute break didn't do much, the same that in those shorts breaks that Kenny and Okada showed through all their fight each few minutes or even each few seconds (as another note some of those breaks Kenny and Okada took lasted close to a minute, a minute and even some were longer than a minute, which mean that essentially they were the same as the breaks between rounds of the boxing matches). So both matches (the boxing and wrestler) aren't that different when you look at them, you can argue that the pro wrestlers take more damage comparatively speaking to the two boxing matches mentioned above but in exchange they last significantly longer fighting with their severe wounds (another thing that you need to consider is how pro wrestlers are significantly more durable than irl trained fighters, high end 9-B around the megajoules range (and in Kenny specific case around the 6 megajoules range) vs 9-C people that isn't even close to the 10 kilojoules mark), I would also like to use some other sports and competitions to compare but I honestly don't know much of sports so is somewhat hard to me.
I mean, yes but you also need to consider how our pro wrestling profiles are quite durable (around the megajoules range and in Kenny case even 6.7 megajoules range based in their statistics) so is understable how they aren't as affected from several things as irl humans, as an example: if someone who weighted 156kg like
Bad Luck Fale fell from a 10 meters height the energy produced would be PE=156*9.8*10=15288Joules/15.288Kilojoules aka baseline 9-B, without mention that apparently he wouldn't even receive the entire energy of the impact do to how
science and irl human bodies work, if we used something like a tackle and KE with the same weight of Bad Luck and high end Peak Human speed the energy produced would be KE=1/2 156*12.43=12051.3822Joules/12.05Kilojoules and Bad Luck wouldn't really take the entire force unless he ran against something like a concrete wall without decerelate, and in the case of something like punched is even worst and more complicated do to again how
science and irl body works.
Cool, how much more damage? They consistently break the opponent body when used? Because as I showed above the amount of energy they actually take depend a lot of several factors.
I mean, the mention of the every second was to highlight how pro wrestling matches aren't like your average fictional fight were characters can fight for very long perios of times while constantly attacking and not giving time to rest, something completely impossible from a humanly realistic point of view, instead they show to be realistics combats were the fighters need short rests from their actions and can't do the impossible feats of lauch attacks and move all the time of a fight.
How much time he fought after getting the a rib broken and with what intensity? I'm also unsure about how the commentators are so sure that he broke ribs unless they have x-rays vision or super senses that let them hear the breaking from the distance despite all the noises, so just in case I would like to know if there was an after fight confirmation of a broken rib, like with his match against Ridge Holland in which was confirmed that Adam got
broken ribs and needed to go to the hospital.
Fight with broken ribs, while obviously not the best thing to do, is apparently possible and the proffesional boxer Timothy Bradley even
commented his experience winning a championship fight while lasting six rounds with broken ribs, and like this I'm pretty sure there are more irl cases of people being able to fight with broken ribs through history (Jack Hermansson for example fought and won a UFC battle with a dislocated rib). As a note something more worth to mention which I casually finded is that Timothy also had a fight were he continued despite having his
feets broken, this isn't a broken rib but still is a feat worth to note.
Broken ribs usually heal on their own in one or two months.
I only really care about Kenny since that was the beginning of all this in the previous crt, the only reason of why the rest of pro wrestling got dragged to this is because you guys seem really fixed in the idea that any change to one profile mean a change to all profiles (it happened the same with the tecnique mimicry part in the previous crt for example), so I'm only really answering to the rest of the verse points more because inertia than anything else.
In the first thing you can read Kenny comment about he only really felt things off the day latter and that in the fight he only thought of it as a blunt force trauma type of thing, so that along with the fact that he apparently didn't needed to go to a hospital (correct me if I'm wrong) at the end of the match show that the injury wasn't seriously grave to the point of need big treatment, yes he developed vertigo do to that but that didn't immediately put his life in danger (vertigo don't actually put your life in danger) and the effects were something of only noticed in the long run (and even then it wasn't like he constantly had vertigo attacks because otherwise he wouldn't had be able to continue with his normal life if it was that grave).
Vertigo attacks typically last a
few seconds and on occassions few minutes (in case that the vertigo is really grave can last hours or even days, but those cases are more rare and need medical treatment), the intensity of the vertigo attack also greatly vary, and they usually don't happen several times a day unless extreme cases (seem to actually be considered as high if people with chronic vetigo suffer attacks like several times a week), Kenny also mentioned to know the trigger of his attacks so he was able to control and prevent them.
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Already commented about this in the beginning of the post but will do so again. Yes, they had one minute rest between rounds but just the first round of James Kelly vs Jonathan Smith already lasted 2 hours and the succesive rounds lasted dozen of minutes each, which show a greater time exertion that Kenny vs Okada (and wrestling matches in general). If you count the time spans in the op you can see how there were 9 short breaks that lasted more than 30 seconds and 4 breaks that lasted more than one minute, everything in the span of the 46 minutes fight, also to note again that most of the time after the short breaks they were moving sluggishly which show their exhaustion imparing them.
Yes, they got just 1 minute breaks in the best cases after dozen of minutes fighting (in the case of Jame vs Jonathan, in the case of Andy and Bowen it was a break after three minutes of continous fight, which is more similar to the short rests the wrestler got in a match every dozen seconds fighting) while bleeding and having broken body parts, so as is very obvious those breaks only really worked to let them catch their breath (unless you suggest that they had a regeneration able to do any significantly to those injuries in said short minute, which obviously isn't the case).
Yeah, you could be able to choose that, but two things 1) 100% sure you aren't able to actually fight for such a extended period of time (unless you actually are a super trained fighter that is at the top of the world) 2) 100% sure you are a tier 10 human who would get considerably injuried from things like that (unless again you are actually a super trained fighter), a case very different to our pro wrestlers profiles that boast a durability in the megajoules range (also, again, wtf is supposed to be the logic behing the exploding barbed wire? Seriously, the thing didn't even exploded at the center were the fighters were and instead just send smoke from the corners).
Alreasy said previously in this post how is possible to fight with broken ribs. Respect for Kurt, but fight with a broken neck is humanly possible with cases like Jayde Mitchell who
commented how he won a fight with a broken neck and Jordan William who
did the same with even saying how he actually had at least two big fights while having a broken neck (I feel a lot of respect for Jordan now because he fight despite having diabetes, which is something quite serious that affect people in physical activities much more than what some could think, and I know this pretty well because my dad had diabetes and I saw all the effects it had on him while training and in his normal life. Jordan even said how he in his life only two doctors ever supported him fighting with his diabetes, and he saw a lot of doctors). Would like to see how much blood loss we are talking about with Chris Jericho and John Cena, along with how long they fought in said condition and the intensity of the fighting. Um, honestly don't know why the Johnny Gargano thing should be impressive, it sound significantly less impressive that all the previous things and the feat sound more like an AP and LS thing if he stood after be buried by objects. The broken fingers feat of Austin Theory is definitely below Burken because he broke all the bones in both of his hands and still fought for hours, and fighting with a broken jaw definitely isn't something beyon human realm with examples like the
Oscar Valdez world championship fight or the
Opetaia world championship fight (Opetai fought 10 rounds with his jaw broken while in the Oscar fight is unknow at which point was that his jaw got broken).
The rest of the verse got dragged because others said that changing Kenny stamina rating mean change the rating of all the verse, my original purpose was just make a crt for a single character and suddenly at the middle the rest of his entire verse was dragged by others, I don't even understand why all this needed to happen.
As a note I actually don't like to look or read about at this type of injuries in real life, they made me feel too uncomfortable and painful, but will try to search things to see other examples of people fighting with broken skulls:
- Jeremy Balasse suffered a broken skull and seemed able to continue fighting, though admitedly he couldn't do so for much because the referee stopped the fight after see such a thing in his forhead and made him have medical treatment, should be noted however that it seemed that Jeremy didn't even noticed the wound until the medic told him about it.
- Danil Sharov similarly also suffered a broken skull andhe didn't noticed it until point out by his opponent, he still wanted to fight and launched a kick but the referee stopped the fight after see the injury (as any sane person should do for gods sake).
So this show two cases of people with broken skulls having the will and ability to continue fighting despite a injury of said level, so shouldn't be surprising if there are fights in human history were fighters continued with a broken skull and without being stopped by others.
Now the case I suppose you were talking about with the broken skull mentions is the informal "fight" between
Grandmaster Sexay (aka Brian Lawler) and Chase Stevens (aka Ryan Clark), a fight which wasn't an perfomance and was actually a real fight while Brian was intoxicated in a hotel (which got Chase arrested and Brian hospitalized because otherwise he was gonna die), this don't count as a stamina feat because Brian was literaly beaten and half dying from Ryan attack when the police got to the hotel, this is probably below what Sharov and Balasse did because in their cases they were actually able to fight despite the broken skull.
This research about fights with broken skulls give me goosebumps so please don't mention this again for my own health.
Write this post already took to many hours and I need to go out, so I will not answer anything else beyond the broken skull post despite having things to say to the rest of post (specially the skull splitting point made by DD, I recommend people to read
this thread were is explained how irl people withstand energy and forces), tomorrow I also need to do an entire web site for a college work so for my own sake I also don't plan to aswer tomorrow. I think however that even without answering to all the other posts my point about this feats being under what is realistically humanly possible was made with solid arguments and proofs. People shouldn't underestimate what peak humans can do, is geniunely impressive.