Kengan Powers and abilities thread #1: Tokita Ohma

[LordGinSama]

These should be relatively simple threads to pass by, I'll be starting off with the Powers and abilities for each character, starting off with the MC himself Tokita Ohma.



For starters Ohma should receive the following Chi / Energy Manipulation and Attack Reflection added to his momentum manipulation via the Redirection Kata. The Momentum manipulation only makes a minor part of the Redirection Kata. The Momentum Manipulation is for disorienting the opponents foot work and deflecting blows away like Flowing Edge and a Change of Scenery.


Reflects Adam's attack back at him, And here In his first fight

Ohma can directly manipulation the flow of power, Which is basically chi

The next ability Ohma should get is limited Resistance to Analytical Prediction via Swimming Swallow. Swimming Swallow is a technique that allows Ohma to deliver, Unpredictable volly of blows and change the trajectory of each attack


Next up is Instinctive Reactions and possibly Imagination Realization? Not sure how to classify the other part but at the bare minimum it's IR and something else. Ohma's body is able to react by itself, And it works subconsciously. The Imagination Realization part comes from Ohma somehow being able to turn his imaginary training into real shit



Demonsbane should also get "enhanced Attack Reflection." Since this reflection is drastically superior to the Redirection Kata's, is executed via a Formless countering making it dangerous to even those who have precog and adding his own power to the attack reflection. Ohma's Water Kata should also be noted under his Damage Reduction since it allows the user to go limp like water to disperse the shock of attacks.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Following

 

[AKM sama]

I'm gonna ping a couple of knowledgeable members to give input here.
@ShiroyashaGinSan @Xulrev

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Following this thread that’s for sure

 

[LordGinSama]

Also to elaborate, Yamashita was the one who made the unpredictable statement, who has the Fist eye giving him lots of Analytical observation, so it's not a hyperbole. The Attack Reflection and Instinctive reactions are pretty self evident.

 

[LordGinSama]

Bump

 

[BakiHanma18]

After looking over it twice, I can confidently say I agree with the OP, though I think “enhanced AR” for Demonsbane is arbitrary. It should just be classified as AR, but the additional effects should be listed somewhere on profile if they aren’t already in my opinion.

 

[Dark_warrior_100]

I have nothing to say except that everything looks fine

 

[LordGinSama]

Bump

 

[LordGinSama]

Bump

 

[LordGinSama]

Bump

 

[AKM sama]

Well, seems like they missed the notification so here goes again: @ShiroyashaGinSan @Xulrev

Anyway, I agree with the evidences shown for Attack Reflection and Instinctive Reaction. I don't really think we have or give a certain power for image training.

For the chi manipulation, I think the scan could simply mean he was throwing off the physical flow of his power.

And for resistance to analytical prediction, I don't think just rushing your opponent with disarrayed movements is enough to grant that. Literally every martial artist or many fighting characters can make changes in their fighting styles so that the opponent is not able to predict them.

 

[LordGinSama]

The Resistance to Analytical Prediction would be limited in nature, but it's legitimate considering the statement was made by Yamashita Kazou, who has something called "The Fist Eye" an extreme analysis ability that allows the user to predict and analyze. Kandea also wasn't able to keep track of the attack, it also only works on lower levels of AP since Kuroki's and Kanoh's foresight are vastly superior to Kandea and Kazzy's.

 

[AKM sama]

I suppose limited resistance is fine then.

 

[Xulrev]

I've been having horrific issues getting my account to work, give me a bit to read through, thanks for the ping AKM

 

[AKM sama]

I've been having horrific issues getting my account to work

What problems are you facing? Maybe I can help.

 

[Xulrev]

I got it working, but it simply would not let me log in. I got my account locked with 'wrong password' issues even though I have my passwords saved on my phone, and had to reset the password, and it locked again.

It was just exasperating

 

[Xulrev]

The next ability Ohma should get is limited Resistance to Analytical Prediction via Swimming Swallow.

I take issue only with this from the OP. Kuroki absolutely smacks down this technique from Ohma, and if someone with Analytical Prediction defeats an attack, im very iffy on granting it even limited resistance.

I 99% concur with everything else, that 1% being my positing that Attack Reflection apply only to Demonsbane

 

[LordGinSama]

Kuroki's Foresight is several grades above Kaneda's so that's why Kuroki was able to lay the smack down on Ohma unfortunately, so that resistance would only work on low levels of Analytical Prediction.

 

[Xulrev]

While true, Kaneda never failed to grasp the ability, so you can't use it as a frame of reference here

 

[LordGinSama]

His foresight at the bare minimum was 10 moves ahead, so I think it's fair to add a "possible" resistance to AP since the proof is there but somewhat ambiguous

 

[AKM sama]

I got it working, but it simply would not let me log in. I got my account locked with 'wrong password' issues even though I have my passwords saved on my phone, and had to reset the password, and it locked again.

It was just exasperating

I hope it is working fine now?

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

They're fine for me.

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with what AKM has accepted.

 

[AKM sama]

Xulrev made a good point against resistance to analytical prediction. So that leaves us with Instinctive Reactions for Ohma and Attack Reflection for Demonsbane that are unanimously accepted?

 

[Antvasima]

What has been accepted by consensus can be applied as far as I am concerned.

 

[LordGinSama]

Xulrev never commented on Kazzy's Observation since hes the one who made the statement.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Xulrev]

Xulrev never commented on Kazzy's Observation since hes the one who made the statement.

What is there to comment upon? Kazzy doesn't have his Observation trained remotely whatsoever at this point in the story. And Kaneda never interacts with Ohma's abilities in an analytical sense.

 

[Antvasima]

So what should we do here then?

 

[AKM sama]

@LordGinSama are you willing to add Instinctive Reactions for Ohma and Attack Reflection for Demonsbane along with the evidences for them?

 

[LordGinSama]

I don't recall Kazzy's Observation / Analytical Prediction ever getting better or more accurate in the series? Kazzy's AP is granted by his Fist eye, it's something that's genetic and inherent, even in the beginning of the KAT tournament Yamashita's Observations were very accurate.



Kandea was there to view and spectate all of Ohma's fights, the two don't fight directly but considering Kaneda doesn't need to be fighting in order to use his AP I'd say it's just as valid.

 

[LordGinSama]

@LordGinSama are you willing to add Instinctive Reactions for Ohma and Attack Reflection for Demonsbane along with the evidences for them?

Yeah sure. Is the profile locked atm? Since Attack Reflection, Water Kata and Instinctive reaction were accepted I'll apply them.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[LordGinSama]

I've added limited Attack Reflection to the Redirection Kata, Instinctive Reaction and added the Water Kata to his damage reduction section.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you.

Is there anything else left to do here?