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Kefla vs Hit
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Most will disagree but I believe hitto could pull off a win although it would extremely difficult. He did better against suppressed jiren than 1st UIO goku and if he could hit kefla with one of his full powered killing techniques then I think he wins. Have to keep in mind he couldn't use killing techniques in TOP.
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I still don't understand why we rate how well 3A characters do against Low 2C characters.
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Because hit performed better than a low - 2c did against the other low 2-c and wasn't able to use killing techniques?
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That doesn't make any sense
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Hit has ways to win this
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Nothing wrong with using hax to win.
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Kefla wins for being hotter.
Oh, and for severe (that's an understatement) AP advantage.
Oh, and for severe (that's an understatement) AP advantage.
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Hit is far more knowledgeable, experienced and has time hax, and he improves at a rapid rate as show when he overcame kkx10 goku after that same goku blitzed him. There's a lot of severe downplay of what hit is capable of.
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I mean, you could make an argument that Hit's first attack would pass right through Kefla's heart because she is so inexperienced to counter it. But that's just it. (Btw, Kefla probably knows about it, because she was his teammate and also saw the Hit vs Jiren fight.)
He doesn't improve instantly, neither will he improve after he has been KOed instantly with that AP gap.
He doesn't improve instantly, neither will he improve after he has been KOed instantly with that AP gap.
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Hit could fool her tactically using clones etc. to keep her guessing and avoid her attacks which may or may not one-shot if she isn't bloodlusted and then use his heart strike thing which she would be to inexperienced to counter... Im just saying its possible for hit to avoid being hit and outsmart her and get the win with hax etc. also killing techniques which he was unable to fully utilize during the TOP. And he would be adapting whilst doing so, therefore my vote goes to hit. If kefla lands an attack on hit with a fair amount of her power then hit is ******.
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I could see Hit winning, but I'm leaning more towards Kefla.
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Way to downplay Beerus like that.PaChi2 said:
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Never said she has all the resistances Jiren and Goku have. But,JackJoyce said:
Time stop - Characters can literally resist it by pure strength. That's why Goku resisted it and it didn't work on Jiren.
Alternate dimension - Character can literally destroy it by pure strength. That's why Goku was able to destroy it and Jiren was able to make it look like a joke.
Invisible phasing punch - Characters can literally block it by pure strength. That's why Goku blocked it after he figured it out and Jiren swatted it away like a fly.
Time cage - Characters can literally resist it by pure strength. That's why Jiren powered up and said it was rubbish.
The only way Hit can win is by making fake ki signatures to confuse Kefla and slip an intangible punch through her heart, because of her inexperience. Even then, being on the same team, Kefla saw Hit using it and should know about it. Moreover, she could literally blitz and one-shot before Hit gets a chance.
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It's nearly impossible to counter Time skip without Precognition that's mentioned in the profile. Also Kefla doesn't have any significant speed advantage here. UI Omen blitz the hell out of her & Hit was able to land a hit on Jiren who's equally fast
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"It's nearly impossible to counter Time skip without Precognition"
Doesn't matter when she can lolnope it with ki.
Also we consider Jiren being suppressed during that fight. UIO2 > UIO1. And Hit landed a hit by outsmarting Jiren. So Kefla does have the speed advantage and can abuse it if she wants.
Doesn't matter when she can lolnope it with ki.
Also we consider Jiren being suppressed during that fight. UIO2 > UIO1. And Hit landed a hit by outsmarting Jiren. So Kefla does have the speed advantage and can abuse it if she wants.
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quick question: why IS this ssj2 kefla? SSJ2 Kefla can one shot UIO2 Goku who's > UIO1 Goku who's comparable to heavily suppressed Jiren who's >>>>>> Hit. A much fairer and more reasonable match would be SSJ1 Kefla vs Hit. The ONLY thing Hit has here is experience and that doesn't matter when SSJ2 Kefla just danmakus or blitzes him or accidently bumps into him.
Change it for SSJ1 Kefla, otherwise this is a stomp
Change it for SSJ1 Kefla, otherwise this is a stomp
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Kefla has no time manipulation resistance feats, so I think Hit can still use it on her. But she'd probably just tank his blows anyway, or at least survive them and win through sheer AP, speed and durability advantages.
Though I honestly think Hit being Low 2-C himself can be argued. But alas, that's not what this discussion is about.
Though I honestly think Hit being Low 2-C himself can be argued. But alas, that's not what this discussion is about.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGaXRSBsMnU
Here's my video if you want to here my full thoughts.
But basically, Hit and SSB Goku are equal in raw power. SSB Goku and Hit were both doing the same against Dyspo, if not with SSB Goku being slightly stronger. Also, Golden Frieza pushed Dyspo to go into SMLSM, whereas Hit didn't. So if Golden Frieza>Hit=SSB Goku, then Kefla will stomp, as Golden Frieza is no more than slightly more powerful than Goku. Goku with SSBkkx20 was equal if not a bit stronger than SSJ1 Kefla. If Hit was reluctant to use his hax on SSB Goku, who was around 20 times less powerful than Kefla, than his hax are utterly useless. So needless to say that even bothering to go into SSJ2 Kefla would be overkill.
Kefla stomps.
Base Kefla would probably lose though, judging by her reaction to SSG Goku going SSB
Here's my video if you want to here my full thoughts.
But basically, Hit and SSB Goku are equal in raw power. SSB Goku and Hit were both doing the same against Dyspo, if not with SSB Goku being slightly stronger. Also, Golden Frieza pushed Dyspo to go into SMLSM, whereas Hit didn't. So if Golden Frieza>Hit=SSB Goku, then Kefla will stomp, as Golden Frieza is no more than slightly more powerful than Goku. Goku with SSBkkx20 was equal if not a bit stronger than SSJ1 Kefla. If Hit was reluctant to use his hax on SSB Goku, who was around 20 times less powerful than Kefla, than his hax are utterly useless. So needless to say that even bothering to go into SSJ2 Kefla would be overkill.
Kefla stomps.
Base Kefla would probably lose though, judging by her reaction to SSG Goku going SSB
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I have to ask, WHY is this SSJ2 Kefla???
Her level of power advantage is kind of ridiculous.
Hit isn't much of a power fighter. His deadliness lies in his level of skill, his ability improve and his hax.
Her level of power advantage is kind of ridiculous.
Hit isn't much of a power fighter. His deadliness lies in his level of skill, his ability improve and his hax.
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Hit got more powerful when fighting jiren, he improves constantly whilst in combat pretty much
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I'm not saying that, I'm saying the gap may not be as big as it seems and even if it is that big hit still is more skilled and has way more experience so could maybe pull off a win with a combination of time hax and killing techniques whilst improving mid battle.
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if this was pure show logic, then i'd probably agree with you.
here though? kefla is literally infinitely stronger than Hit in this state. she's also a lot faster too. kefla would win by breathing in Hit's general direction once we take the stats literally
here though? kefla is literally infinitely stronger than Hit in this state. she's also a lot faster too. kefla would win by breathing in Hit's general direction once we take the stats literally
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I guess I agree with you to an extent, still could see hits time hax being useful phasing through attacks etc. Ill vote kefla for the reasons stated above though.
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Because UIO2 had better reactions but that's besides the point because Kefla getting "lolblitzed" by UIO2 doesn't prove Hit stands a chance. She has the speed advantage by being Low 2-C. I would like to think that you already know that speed also increses with ki.
Yes, you should equalize the speed otherwise Kefla stomps hard. Well, she'd still stomp with speed unequalized.
Yes, you should equalize the speed otherwise Kefla stomps hard. Well, she'd still stomp with speed unequalized.
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The fact she as Beserk SS2 could even see Goku's UIO2 or move her head while Goku was moving in the scene where he used his Kamehameha means the speed gap isn't ludicrous, like the difference between SSB level fighters to UIO or a suppressed Jiren to Kaioken x20 Goku (first fight).
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