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Saian Girl vs Mermaid Bakugan

Sirenoid being 2C makes me want to re-watch bakugan to make a huge verse wide CRT because ain't no way fodders like that are 2C 😭
 
Ah okay here we go.
so what, does it say "this character is not 2C, it is a fodder character" in Sirenoid's jpg?
No but looking at the profiles it looks like everyone just randomly gets scaled to God tiers of the verse.
Sirenoid voice genjutsu... -Sorry wrong anime- can sing and manipulate Kefla's mind.


All the song was shown doing is make Preyas go towards the vortex while Preyas himself was aware he shouldn't do it. It doesn't stop Kefla from attacking and Sirenoid needs to keep singing and playing her instrument so she's basically a huge target.

Even if Kefla gets sucked into the doom dimension due to the mind manipulation, she can just come back using teleportation/portal creation so the whole ability is useless.

I'm not familiar with DB but Kefla should also has an AP advantage (6 universes vs 4 universes iirc). Kefla skill stomps
 
Sirenoid scales to universe 6 and even if Kefla escapes the doom dimension, Sirenoid sends her back as long as she sings
Is Sirenoid scaling to 6 universes accepted? Last Bakugan thread it was just 4.

She has to use an ability card for that and she's only been shown using 1 at a time so there's no reason to believe she can just spam it. Meanwhile nothing stops Kefla from constantly coming back until Sirenoid is out of ability cards or even killing her mid song.
This honestly isn't even a battle. OP was clearly banking on mind manip given Kefla's lack of resistance, but didn't notice that the mind manip doesn't actually guarantee a win.
 
Is Sirenoid scaling to 6 universes accepted? Last Bakugan thread it was just 4.
Can you post the thread you mentioned, Iirc, it's currently considered 6 uni
She has to use an ability card for that and she's only been shown using 1 at a time so there's no reason to believe she can just spam it. Meanwhile nothing stops Kefla from constantly coming back until Sirenoid is out of ability cards or even killing her mid song.
This honestly isn't even a battle. OP was clearly banking on mind manip given Kefla's lack of resistance, but didn't notice that the mind manip doesn't actually guarantee a win.
If Kefla has no resistance to mind manip, Sirenoid wins by simply immobilizing it. She can also use his ability as he wishes.
 
Oh how could I forget this. Sirenoid does not send his opponent to the destiny dimension with this ability. It sends it to a different place. The sent person cannot move freely here. Even though Preyas was a Bakugan with Aquos (water) feature, he could not move easily in water. Klaus purposely didn't play the doom card in this episode. If he had played it, Preyas would have gone to doom dimension and he wouldn't have been able to make it his own Bakugan. In Episode 29, Preyas went to the Doom Dimension for the first time. The place we previously thought he went was somewhere else.

In short, when Kefla gets carried away by the current and falls into a different dimension, she will have difficulty moving in this dimension, just like Preyas. So there is a possibility that he may create a portal and not be able to exit.
 
Can you post the thread you mentioned, Iirc, it's currently considered 6 uni
Ngl I'm a bit lazy, just check Apolloniers loss on his profile. And could you show me where it says Bakugan scale to 6 universes?
If Kefla has no resistance to mind manip, Sirenoid wins by simply immobilizing it. She can also use his ability as he wishes.
Sirenoid can't immob her. She has only been shown making people go into the vortex.
Oh how could I forget this. Sirenoid does not send his opponent to the destiny dimension with this ability. It sends it to a different place. The sent person cannot move freely here. Even though Preyas was a Bakugan with Aquos (water) feature, he could not move easily in water. Klaus purposely didn't play the doom card in this episode. If he had played it, Preyas would have gone to doom dimension and he wouldn't have been able to make it his own Bakugan. In Episode 29, Preyas went to the Doom Dimension for the first time. The place we previously thought he went was somewhere else.

In short, when Kefla gets carried away by the current and falls into a different dimension, she will have difficulty moving in this dimension, just like Preyas. So there is a possibility that he may create a portal and not be able to exit.
If that are the case that would be decided by lifting strength. And that would be unknown vs unknown.
In other words, Kefla still skill stomps.
 
In addition, those who fall into the dimension where Sirenoid sends his voice through the mind MP cannot move in the water voluntarily. Even though Preyas was Aquos, he couldn't go against the current. Kefla might not be able to save herself by creating a portal after being caught in the current.
 
In addition, those who fall into the dimension where Sirenoid sends his voice through the mind MP cannot move in the water voluntarily. Even though Preyas was Aquos, he couldn't go against the current. Kefla might not be able to save herself by creating a portal after being caught in the current.
Again, immobilization like this is usually decided by lifting strength and both are unknown here so that is a non factor.
 
Judging by the appearance of the Bakugan, they have at least Class 50 LS. Apollonir's profile was evaluated "due to its size". Considering that Preyas is as big as the building, it should have at least this value. It would be nice if someone who can do calc could make LS Calc for Bakugan.

 
Judging by the appearance of the Bakugan, they have at least Class 50 LS. Apollonir's profile was evaluated "due to its size". Considering that Preyas is as big as the building, it should have at least this value. It would be nice if someone who can do calc could make LS Calc for Bakugan.

Not on profile and Kefla should be far above class 50 anyway since she's comparable to Goku who's class M.
Iirc, yes 6 universes are accepted. In Japanese scans, it is said that the realms that make up vestoriya are the universe.
Can you uhm… show me where? Please
 
Not on profile and Kefla should be far above class 50 anyway since she's comparable to Goku who's class M.
Kefla's profile currently lists LS as unknown. In fact, we can classify Preyas as Class M. The calculation for Cross Drago has been accepted. Preyas also gets LS success through Mechtogan, which is much superior to Cross Drago. If you ask why it is not on your profile, this account has just been accepted and I have not yet entered the profiles of all the characters scaled from it. Also, can you provide proof that Kefla's LS is measured from Goku?


 
Kefla's profile currently lists LS as unknown.
So is Sirenoids. And trying to quickly change it mid battle thread to rat out a stomp thread would just be scummy af.
In fact, we can classify Preyas as Class M. The calculation for Cross Drago has been accepted.
Why would s1 Preyas scale to Crosd Drago 💀
Preyas also gets LS success through Mechtogan, which is much superior to Cross Drago. If you ask why it is not on your profile, this account has just been accepted and I have not yet entered the profiles of all the characters scaled from it. Also, can you provide proof that Kefla's LS is measured from Goku?
Given that she's of the same race and same AP, speed, and durability, she should generally be comparable to him in lifting strength.

S2 Drago calc and S4 video. Idk why would s1 Preyas scale here…
 
Given that she's of the same race and same AP, speed, and durability, she should generally be comparable to him in lifting strength.
The fact that all these are the same does not mean that they will also be valid for LS. Guardian Bakugan are all relative to each other in terms of strength, speed and durability.
Why would s1 Preyas scale to Crosd Drago 💀
Also, there is nothing to show that Preyas' LS increased from season 1 to season 4. Even when he evolved, his appearance did not change, only his power increased and multiplied. Even in the last season, he is more mature than his second season self. He was turned to stone for most of Season 2. It shouldn't be too different from Season 1.
 
And here Sirenoid season 2 is used. Sirenoid can lift Macubass with its water. I can say that Maccubass is comparable to Cross Drago in terms of buoyancy. After all, he fought characters such as Knight Percival and Magma Wilda, who were comparable to Cross Drago.

 
The fact that all these are the same does not mean that they will also be valid for LS.
So apparently Kefla's lifting strength will be T based on an accepted CRT. Class T is far above M anyway 👇


Also, there is nothing to show that Preyas' LS increased from season 1 to season 4. Even when he evolved, his appearance did not change, only his power increased and multiplied.
So both him and Drago evolved since s1 (several times for Drago) which increased their power. So Preyas should just simply not scale at all.
Even in the last season, he is more mature than his second season self. He was turned to stone for most of Season 2. It shouldn't be too different from Season 1.
It's not that Preyas is different it's that DRAGO who did the feat is different. It's not the same Drago that scaled to s1 Preyas. So the scaling chain doesn't work.

So Kefla should easily defeat Sirenoid here
 
Yeah so Kefla is now class T or whatever so Sirenoid kidna has no real win cons.
With stat manipulation, he can reduce Kefla's power and increase his own power. Apart from this, it is possible to turn the battlefield into water and escape from Kefla's attacks. It can also cancel Kefla's attacks with Power Nullification.

Unless a Class T or higher calculation arrives, Sirenoid will not be able to defeat Kefla with her Anthemusa ability.
 
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