Kefla vs Hit

[PaChi2]

>SSj2 Kefla

>vs Hit.

Someone is getting oneshot. Someone purple.

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[AKM sama]

SSJ1 Kefla would be a better choice.

 

[GyroNutz]

agreed. and SSJ1 Kefla should still have an immense AP advantage

 

[Jinx666]

Hit

Lets face it, a fusion whose been around for like, 6 minutes vs a guy with 1000 years of living, with drastically higher experience, even with the massive AP advantage (Much like Jiren had), Hit could easily find an opening and get close to her before she even realises.

Then it just takes a single hit.

 

[Schnee_One]

Hit Time Stops and calls it a day

Hit FRA

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Kale and Caulifla had no resistance to his time stop. Why should Kale as a fusion? Moreover, in-character, Kefla relishes a good fight, like Goku or Vegito. She'd likely try to hold back, even in SSJ.

Hit FRA.

 

[GyroNutz]

Hmm. With speed equalized, I could maybe see Hit winning via Time Cage if he goes for it immediately. If it took Goku three tries to figure out Hit's intangible blast and four for his time cage, both times with prior knowledge and having experienced it himself, a far, far more inexperienced fighter by Kefla should be caught off-guard by it easily, and time skip should give him the advantage in speed before she's able to use ki danmaku that would vaporise Hit.

After reconsidering this I think Hit should take it 6/10

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

On second consideration, Hit would take it.

Yeah, Kefla could possibly one shot him due to AP, he can do the same via Hax and I doubt he's going to give her any real time to figure out how exactly his techniques work.

So, Hit should take this more times than he doesn't, even if only a little.

 

[AKM sama]

Time stop - Characters can literally resist it by pure strength. That's why Goku resisted it and it didn't work on Jiren.

Alternate dimension - Character can literally destroy it by pure strength. That's why Goku was able to destroy it and Jiren was able to make it look like a joke.

Invisible phasing punch - Characters can literally block it by pure strength. That's why Goku blocked it after he figured it out and Jiren swatted it away like a fly.

Time cage - Characters can literally resist it by pure strength. That's why Jiren powered up and said it was rubbish.

The only way Hit can win is by making fake ki signatures to confuse Kefla and slip an intangible punch through her heart, because of her inexperience. Even then, being on the same team, Kefla saw Hit using it and should know about it. Moreover, she could literally blitz and one-shot before Hit gets a chance.

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[GyroNutz]

Time cage has no showings of being broken by pure strength. When Jiren did it, he did it due to his time stop resistance, shown when Vados said "That means Jiren possesses power which transcends time itself" and when the supreme Kai said "even time itself means nothing against Jiren's strength".

Jiren being unaffected by time skip is a speed feat, which is irrelevant when speed is equalised. You can see in the Hit vs Jiren fight, whenever Hit is time-skipping, Jiren doesn't move until time skip is over and THEN he counters. Sure Kefla's power will help her resist it, but it should be effective enough for Hit to get her in a time cage where she is hopeless.

She can't blitz Hit if speed is equalized

 

[AKM sama]

"Time cage has no showings of being broken by pure strength"

>"That means Jiren possesses power which transcends time itself"

>power

> "even time itself means nothing against Jiren's strength"

>strength

Yes, Jiren broke out of the time cage due to power and strength.

 

[GyroNutz]

power and strength referring to Jiren's resistance to time-cage. don't cherry pick words so that they mean what you want

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Jiren is still superior to Kefla.

 

[AKM sama]

power and strength referring to Jiren's resistance to time-cage. don't cherry pick words so that they mean what you want

Yes, both sentences imply that Jiren's "resistance" comes from having superior power and strength. Basic comprehension.

@Korudo Jiren was suppressed against Hit.

 

[MeleeniumRXJ]

So is it accepted that Hit can hurt Low 2-C characters with pressure points and invisible ki blasts? Why not just upgrade him to Low 2-C?

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

Hit's invisible ki blasts also negate durability by phasing through them and attacking the organs directly. They're intangible.

 

[Golden_Void]

SS2 Kefla in raw power > UIO 2 Goku > UIO1 Goku > SSBKK (any multiplier) > SSBFP Goku > Hit

Hit gets stomped worse than rampaging Kale accidentally knocking people off of the stage