Kamen Rider Transduality Revision

[ZeedKZ]

If he's in a dimension then that's HDE and not BDE

The Original Spirit is outside the dimensional structure of the Pokémon multiverse and rather contains the Cosmology within himself.

Saver is also outside the dimensional structure, the "higher dimension" they refer is literally Kamen Rider Saver on its entirely, he transcended the cosmology by also transcending its space and time. This is similar to the reason of why Lavos got Type 1 BDE due to lacking spatio-temporal characteristics.

 

[Sniper670]

Saver is also outside the dimensional structure, the "higher dimension" they refer is literally Kamen Rider Saver on its entirely, he transcended the cosmology by also transcending its space and time. This is similar to the reason of why Lavos got Type 1 BDE due to lacking spatio-temporal characteristics.

That's fine. If Saver exists outside of all spatio temporal features in the verse then that works

 

[Sir_Ovens]

But you would need to prove that beyond the 7 dimensions, there is nothing there.

 

[ZeedKZ]

That is the main reason he is 1-C...

 

[Jamesthetaker]

I think it's better to save BDE for another thread since we already accepted transduality.

 

[Elizhaa]

Thank you Elizhaa.
What'd you think about BDE for Saver? From this statement:







In the bolded part, Saver claims he has ascended to a higher plane which means he exists above the multiverse. The statement that he surpassed space-time which supports the idea that Saver completely transcended all existence. The transcendent statements corroborate with the previous claims of Saver encompassing the entire multiverse referring to dimensional superiority.

Simply speaking, Saver encompasses the multiverse and exists above it.

The last scan indicate they're in a completely different realm than the multiverse (The narrative refer to the universe and multiverse as "the world" while in the last scan it explicitly says "Kugai Kudo's World" AKA Saver realm.

SO I think BDE type 2 is feasible considering Saver is qualitatively superior to the whole multiverse, and have surpasses Time and surpasses Space.

It seems like just it; just clarifying, are the tier 1, 7-D, or 8-D(+)?

If it is the former and they vaguely scaled above 7-D space, then I think it is mostly no; if this is the latter case, where they existed out of 7-D and transcend all of space-time, then I think yes.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

It seems like just it; just clarifying, are the tier 1, 7-D, or 8-D(+)?

If it is the former and they vaguely scaled above 7-D space, then I think it is mostly no; if this is the latter case, where they existed out of 7-D and transcend all of space-time, then I think yes.

He transcended all creation in this context, including the seven dimensions and space-time.

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

If it is the former and they vaguely scaled above 7-D space, then I think it is mostly no; if this is the latter case, where they existed out of 7-D and transcend all of space-time, then I think yes.

As James says above too.
And in this CRT it is accepted that Saver exist beyond the multiverse and qualitatively superior above it (8D).

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

I think it's better to save BDE for another thread since we already accepted transduality.

Sure, I don't mind, especially if the OP wants it that way.
I just thought while Elizhaa was here, they can gave their thought about BDE as someone knowledgeable about BDE in the wiki.

 

[Omazio2019]

Guys should we wait for Firestorm's reply or this can be applied now?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

@Firestorm808

 

[Firestorm808]

Type 4: Irregular Causality seems okay.

For Type 1 (Specific Transduality), just specify on the page how this applies to him. (They can't be destroyed in general, immune to physical destruction, or when they are destroyed, they aren't re-created by the natural system)

 

[Omazio2019]

So here is a blog post i made you guy can check it out

 

[Omazio2019]

I've finished the edit we can end this thread now

 

[Firestorm808]

I've finished the edit we can end this thread now

Wait, all three below applied to his Tranduality?

They can't be destroyed in general, immune to physical destruction, or when they are destroyed, they aren't re-created by the natural system

Not being able to be "destroyed in general" seems like an NLF.

 

[Omazio2019]

So just two later part then, immune to physical destruction and can't re-created by the natural system.

 

[Omazio2019]

So if there is nothing else i think we can end this now

 

[Ubdon]

btw they might be added to examples of type 1 td

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

So if there is nothing else i think we can end this now

Yes, if Firestorm doesn't find the justification a problem anymore.

We can close this.