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Kakashi Hatake vs Espeon
- Thread starter The_real_cal_howard
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. Speed equalized
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Cal be on point making them Pokemon vs Naruto characters.
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Just mind reading.
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The ability Magic Bounce
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Basically. Magic Bounce is an ability that passively reflects any techniquethat affects Espeon without doing direct damage back at the opponent.
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I thought it was BFR. Anyway, it's not limited to statuses. It's anything that doesn't have base damage. It works on Leer, Stealth Rock, etc.
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Oh. I M not sure it will work on kamui though from what Im gettimg, Kamui ripped off arms of Juubi who was >>>> Kakashi, kamui ignores durability
Kamui does three things - phasing, teleportation and spatial erasure. The phasing and spatial erasure both ignore durability but are separate abilities. The phasing is both offensive and defensive
Kamui does three things - phasing, teleportation and spatial erasure. The phasing and spatial erasure both ignore durability but are separate abilities. The phasing is both offensive and defensive
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Yeah, that would definitely work. It's just the BFR part that wouldn't.
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Does Espeon have access to TM/HM moves or is it limted to level ups?
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Level up + breeding
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Surprisingly intelligent. Much more than your average Pokémon.
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Kakashi's only saving grace would be Kamui.
Espi can stall him with Status (Yawn & Sand Attack) + Healing (Morning Sun & Wish), Precognition (Future Sight & Dex Entry), Protection (Detect). It also gets STAB with other Psychic attacks. Also, Several Kilometers on Dozens of Meters.
Leaning towards Espeon.
Espi can stall him with Status (Yawn & Sand Attack) + Healing (Morning Sun & Wish), Precognition (Future Sight & Dex Entry), Protection (Detect). It also gets STAB with other Psychic attacks. Also, Several Kilometers on Dozens of Meters.
Leaning towards Espeon.
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Kakashi's clones and teleportation are pointless to someone with precog and psychic nature.
How far in range does Kamui reach?
How far in range does Kamui reach?
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Kamui can't reach Espeon if its out of Kakashi's range, while Espeon could wail of him from a very far distance. He could try to get in close but Espeon outclasses Kakashi in range by a long shot.
Again, Precognition + Future Sight takes of Clone Jutsus:
"Girafarig's eyes or whole body glows light blue. After a little bit of time passes, the wind blows strong and a sphere of rainbow colored energy comes out of nowhere, striking the opponent. Future Sight has a second ability that allows the user and occasionally its Trainer to see into the future."
Espeon is able to read and predict the opponents next both both naturally and with Future Sight. It should be able to Kakashi's next move and his strategy of hiding were his real self in the midst of his clones. At the very least, pin point the specific patch were he's hiding. Espeon also gets spread moves such as Swift that cover a wide area, which would take out a chunk of Kakashi's clones.
Again, Precognition + Future Sight takes of Clone Jutsus:
| FireRed | By reading air currents, it can predict things such as the weather or its foe's next move. |
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| LeafGreen | It uses the fine hair that covers its body to sense air currents and predict its enemy's actions. |
| Black 2 | Its fur is so sensitive, it can feel minute shifts in the air and predict the weather... and its foes' thoughts. |
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| White 2 |
Espeon is able to read and predict the opponents next both both naturally and with Future Sight. It should be able to Kakashi's next move and his strategy of hiding were his real self in the midst of his clones. At the very least, pin point the specific patch were he's hiding. Espeon also gets spread moves such as Swift that cover a wide area, which would take out a chunk of Kakashi's clones.
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Espeon FRA.
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Based on assumption Espeon should have experiance with clones hence the move double team and like @Scarlet said earlier, swift is the perfect move to take out the clones. Both Kakashi and Espeon have a good degree in precog but Espeon has the edge, The only thing I'm hesitant of is the range but I'm leaning more towards Espeon
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Has it been shown that he uses it right of the bat at the start of a fight?
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If the threat is strong enough yes. He didn't use Kamui much in early Shippuden due to chakra shortage. However he was spamming it since War arc and it became his primary ability.
Two types of kamui are long range that can one shot. Standard Kamui which remotely erases space from a distance, the other one is Kamui shuriken which is projectile based which warps away anything it touches upon contact (damaged Kaguya who's Low 5-B)
Two types of kamui are long range that can one shot. Standard Kamui which remotely erases space from a distance, the other one is Kamui shuriken which is projectile based which warps away anything it touches upon contact (damaged Kaguya who's Low 5-B)
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By the way, can anybody tell me how Espeon can do anything if Kakashi phases out? The votes for Espeon except Cal's looks very fishy, especially the FRA which don't explain anything.
Kamui is passive and doesn't need need Kakashi to react, he was caught offguard by Kaguya's All Killing Ash Bones and it phased out.
Kamui is passive and doesn't need need Kakashi to react, he was caught offguard by Kaguya's All Killing Ash Bones and it phased out.
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Espeon FRA
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Seeing how any pokemon can hurt Ghost-types, who are intangible by nature, phasing is least of Espeon's problems.
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There are different kinds of intangible. Being able to affect one kind doesn't mean you can affect them all.
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kakashi via ignoring dura and intanbitility
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Kakashi.
Espeon wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the clones without one of them saying that they're a clone. Double Team isn't a guaranteed experience that this random wild Mon has. It doesn't know TMs and we don't know of it's habitat, so we don't know which mons it would face and if those mons have Double Team as a move they can learn. Even then, it is inconsistent whether or not the Double Team clones are solid or not.
Espeon might have superior range and magic bounce possibly for Kamui shuriken, but standard Kamui might not be bouncable. It's like, Spacial Rend as an OhKO move, and I don't think Magic bounce reflects OhKO's. And Kakashi's intangibility isn't the same as Ghost type intangibility.
Though, we do have a thread where we can discuss those things.
Espeon wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the clones without one of them saying that they're a clone. Double Team isn't a guaranteed experience that this random wild Mon has. It doesn't know TMs and we don't know of it's habitat, so we don't know which mons it would face and if those mons have Double Team as a move they can learn. Even then, it is inconsistent whether or not the Double Team clones are solid or not.
Espeon might have superior range and magic bounce possibly for Kamui shuriken, but standard Kamui might not be bouncable. It's like, Spacial Rend as an OhKO move, and I don't think Magic bounce reflects OhKO's. And Kakashi's intangibility isn't the same as Ghost type intangibility.
Though, we do have a thread where we can discuss those things.
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Problem with clones is im very certain it isnt in-character for Kakashi to use them, he hardly ever uses them in an actual fight. Especially since the jutsu uses up a lot of the users chakra (sans Naruto). This is even shown when Kakashi was training Naruto to make the Rasen-Shuriken.
Clones would be a problem but not to the extent everyones making it seem like. Kakashi isn't busting out a bunch of clones that would confuse Espeon.
Clones would be a problem but not to the extent everyones making it seem like. Kakashi isn't busting out a bunch of clones that would confuse Espeon.
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Yes but again, the clone jutsu kinda isn't in character for Kakashi to start out with. And Espeon can still use precog to do something before Kamui. Plus would Kakashi first use Kamui to BFR her or harm her?
