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Kaguya should be star level with her strongest attack

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Seththeproggramer said that kaguya was star level in one of his YouTube vids and also kaguya had a day and night cycle which means she had a sun in her dimension. People say that it's a outlier but how even Seth said that it's not an outlier. I just want a good clean conversation about this topic. Also don't close this thread please.
 
Somebody Give me a good reason why kaguya is not star level. They are sooo many edivence to back up that kaguya is star level
 
What everyone else said. Though I will bring up just one thing (thats it) that I find kind of doulble standardy.

We have characters here who are pretty much in the same boat as Kaguya, making pocket dimensional spaces that have a sun in it (or they're claimed to have a sun) and we allow them to be Star Tier because of it. Given all the PIS stuff that Kaguya went through already, I just find it somewhat contradictory to allow them to be given it instead of her.

All im saying on this since this is a discussion rule.
 
Thats why I said "same boat as Kaguya" Dragon.

Granted, ofc if the character from their verse has stuff backing it then they're fair game, otherwise there's nothing defending them having the tier anymore than Kaguya has.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
I mean wanking one verse doesnt mean your wrong about all verses to be fair but yeah going off someone elses word isnt the best move either.
This. Just as we say this about others, some can, will and have said the same for us.
 
Isn't this a banned topic? Also wasn't this deemed an outlier? But before this gets closed I'll give my opinion while I can. Kaguya has two tier 4 feats. One being her creating a dimension with a sun and another is her ESTB being able to destroy her dimension and recreating them. Kep calced her ESTB at 5-A, but I don't think he took into account the moons that are in the dimension. Also I heard that it was confirmed in the Boruto light novel that momoshiki also created a dimension as well.
 
It was a video on YT I saw months ago where Seththeprogrammer and his buddy was discussing about how powerful MUI is.
 
It was a video on YT I saw months ago where Seththeprogrammer and his buddy was discussing about how powerful MUI is.
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
What everyone else said. Though I will bring up just one thing (thats it) that I find kind of doulble standardy.
We have characters here who are pretty much in the same boat as Kaguya, making pocket dimensional spaces that have a sun in it (or they're claimed to have a sun) and we allow them to be Star Tier because of it. Given all the PIS stuff that Kaguya went through already, I just find it somewhat contradictory to allow them to be given it instead of her.

All im saying on this since this is a discussion rule.
thank you someone finally understand me i personally feel like its unfair for one anime series to be tier 4 while other anime series is not tier 4. like a perfect example dragon ball z everyone says that they are star level but we never seen them destroy a star but when kaguya has feats and edvince to back up that she is star level everyone still says its an outlier i really just dont get it
 
Wrath Of Itachi said:
Kep calced her ESTB at 5-A, but I don't think he took into account the moons that are in the dimension.
The sole reason it is 5-A is because Kep took into account the moons in her dimension. Also pretty sure that it was agreed that it wasn't a sun but simply a light source.
 
The real cal howard said:
The sole reason it is 5-A is because Kep took into account the moons in her dimension. Also pretty sure that it was agreed that it wasn't a sun but simply a light source.
If that happened, im also pretty sure there were arguments for why it wouldnt be as such.

Even if not, while I don't have a problem at all with Kaguya not getting this, I'll repeat the above. This might be a bit of a double standard as there are some verses who are in the same boat, not even visably showing a sun in their pocket spaces too, and despite that they still get the rating for them.

And yet they don't fare any better than Kaguya does to defend it.
 
There is a sun in one of her dimensions. In the OVA "The day Naruto became hokage" Sasuke visited her desert dimension which clearly showed a sun and moon in it. Also I'm not sure how to correctly read some calcs, so my bad I didn't know he took into account the moon as well.
 
The real cal howard said:
Wrath Of Itachi said:
Kep calced her ESTB at 5-A, but I don't think he took into account the moons that are in the dimension.
The sole reason it is 5-A is because Kep took into account the moons in her dimension. Also pretty sure that it was agreed that it wasn't a sun but simply a light source.

do you have any proof that wasnt a star cause it doesnt make sense how would it not be a sun unless your telling me that the light is fake but that still doesnt make sense
 
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules

  • Please refrain from attempting to upgrade Kaguya and Momoshiki to Star level or above. We have exhausted the topic and decided it's inconsistent with the franchise's overall showing of power and thus it is now typically viewed as an outlier. Also, it was similarly decided that Kaguya should not be granted planet level attack potency for her casual attacks, as the only scene where this rating would be warranted is strife with PIS and a lack of feats, thus forcing us to rate her at this level only via the Expansive Truth-Seeker Ball. Insistence of this will be unappreciated. Also, although at least one of her pocket realms was confirmed to contain a star, the relative size of it was deemed questionable, and it was discarded as a result.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules
  • Please refrain from attempting to upgrade Kaguya and Momoshiki to Star level or above. We have exhausted the topic and decided it's inconsistent with the franchise's overall showing of power and thus it is now typically viewed as an outlier. Also, it was similarly decided that Kaguya should not be granted planet level attack potency for her casual attacks, as the only scene where this rating would be warranted is strife with PIS and a lack of feats, thus forcing us to rate her at this level only via the Expansive Truth-Seeker Ball. Insistence of this will be unappreciated. Also, although at least one of her pocket realms was confirmed to contain a star, the relative size of it was deemed questionable, and it was discarded as a result.
thats still isnt really proof tho but ok
 
ProfessorKukui4Life said:
The real cal howard said:
The sole reason it is 5-A is because Kep took into account the moons in her dimension. Also pretty sure that it was agreed that it wasn't a sun but simply a light source.
If that happened, im also pretty sure there were arguments for why it wouldnt be as such.
Even if not, while I don't have a problem at all with Kaguya not getting this, I'll repeat the above. This might be a bit of a double standard as there are some verses who are in the same boat, not even visably showing a sun in their pocket spaces too, and despite that they still get the rating for them.

And yet they don't fare any better than Kaguya does to defend it.
yo i like how you think cause its true what you saying other anime series also get put to star level but not kaguya tho thats mess up in my opinion
 
I'm pretty sure the Star feat was merely a Genjutsu/Illusion; that stuff is pretty common in Naruto. And the absolute best feats or calcs are Planet level, so let's just stick to that.
 
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