Naruto: Kaguya's Stats

Antvasima wrote: Matthew Schroeder mentioned that it was an outlier (compared to her general displayed destructive capacity, having her arm severed by Naruto, and being defeated by a Low 5-B attack).

That's the thing....omg, lol...

Ok.

1.)From chapter 679 - 684, Kaguya's Goal wasn't to Kill Them. She wanted to absorb their chakra. Which means she held back.

2.)Kaguya's abilities use a lot of Chakra and she spams them....doing so, wastes her stamina which is tied to her physical stats. The More chakra she uses, the more stamina is depleated and the more stamina that is depleted reduces her Strength, Speed, etc which is why she went from tanking everything they did to starting getting injured...read this again, please, it explains everything:

http://www.naruto2.com/information/chakra_guide/Naruto-ChakraControlling.aspx

3,)Kaguya's Abilities aren't DC related. She has AP techniques.

• Ash Bones
• Chakra Fists
• Senbon Needles

Etc...So given the fact that she was holding Back, of course Naruto and Sasuke would seem to have a chance. Which is what I'm assuming you guys are taking as her "General Displayed" AP/DC. Yeah, That's Kaguya holding back.

3.)As pointed out, her abilities are generally AP related so you're not gonna be seeing any Moon busting or Planet Busting on panel feats, especially because she's the strongest character who wasn't going all out. So you can't take what she showed between those chapters as her "General Feats". They should be listed as "Casual Feats".

4,)From Chapter 685 - 688 that is where kaguya decided to decided to Kill Naruto and Sasuke and gt injured by Naruto. But you can't forget that by the time she got injured she's used her Dimensions switching ability 4 times:

• Real World > Lava World
• Lava World > Ice World
• Ice World > Gravity World
• Gravity World > Core World

And she's connected the Dimensions via her personal portals several times:

• Ice World > Sand World
• Ice World > Core World
• Core World > Ice World

So By the Time Kaguya Decided to Kill them, she was no longer as strong as when she was revived. And even then she was low diffing Naruto's Clones casually and Easily Blitzing them when they could match Madara's Limbo Clones. Naruto and Sasuke Struggled to stay Alive in the Gravity World. And By the way, When Kaguya switched to the Gravity world, she was already at the point where she could no longer use her Ash bones from using up that chakra to get in the Gravity world.

Then she instantly teleported back using even more Chakra to the point where Sasuke could then Nearly fight even with her using PS. That's When obito Died, Naruto blitzed her and that was seconds after going back. This means that Kaguya was no longer at the level where she could eeasily dispatch of them. Too little too late, she was already too close to Naruto and Sasuke's level to not get injured anymore and that's because she used too much chakra. This is in the manga!!!! There was no inconsistencies. NONE!!!!!

5.)In Chapter 679, after Kaguya reformed herself after absorbing IT chakra, She also produced the ETSB. She was going to kill them with that. A Planet level technique. She was serious then. The only contradiction comes in the form of Speed as Kakashi being able to tag her and Sakura breaking her horn and that's an outlier because Sakura later admits that she can't even trade blows with Naruto or Sasuke and this is further proven in Gaiden When She had trouble with Shin. Naruto and Sasuke from inches away rushing at her with the seals wouldn't have been able to tag her. She easily out paced them.

So, nothing here really was contradicted. For Plot Purposes Sakura was able to match speed and Punch Kaguya to allow her to be sealed. That's an outlier. the only contradiction is in Speed via Kakashi but even that can be seen as a outlier. Kaguya wasn't injured by the main parties after reforming herself. She was sealed yes, but that doesn't reflect stats. And it's not like she had her power to break the seal because the seal strips her of that power.

Kaguya should be planet Level at least all around via Stats scaling from ETSB. Everything else you guys are saying to keep her lowered isn't fact.

@ANY OF THE MODS WHO CARE

I was typing this when the thread i made was closed. I know the it should be dropped and i will drop it after this. I believe this to be a Key factor in all of this. If anybody can debunk this factually then I'll have nothing left to say on the subject. I highly believe there are some misunderstandings about Kaguya's fight. Please just look over this and make a final verdict. This isn't about Start level or anything, just whether Kaguya should be scaled.

Isn't this topic ban or soon to be? Regardless accepting this will lead to an open discussion later on about star lvl Kaguya once again. Shin was on par with Naruto and Sasuke, to the point they needed Sakura to save them by K.O. Shin Uchiha from behind. Which is an outliner as well. I wouldn't mind this, but I fear for the future shitstorm that's coming if this is accepted. May as well create one for Yukio's dimension that is a replica of Earth, and it also has a star. Guess what Ichigo completely destroy it, by just going bankai. Star lvl Ichigo? Lol No. Too much wank.

HokageMangaVox said:

Isn't this topic ban or soon to be? Regardless accepting this will lead to an open discussion later on about star lvl Kaguya once again. Shin was on par with Naruto and Sasuke, to the point they needed Sakura to save them by K.O. Shin Uchiha from behind. Which is an outliner as well. I wouldn't mind this, but I fear for the future shitstorm that's coming if this is accepted. May as well create one for Yukio's dimension that is a replica of Earth, and it also has a star. Guess what Ichigo completely destroy it, by just going bankai. Star lvl Ichigo? Lol No. Too much wank.

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I destictly remember Sasuke schooling the Shins and Naruto getting Stabbed by Sasuke's Sword before anything could happen. When naruto deactivated Kurama Shin went after Sarada during the confusion and Sasuke not having access to MS due to DING DING DING using up a lot of Chakra connecting to Kaguya's Dimensions blocked Shins knives with his Body. Just so happened those knives restrict movement.

Shin did nothing to warrant being Naruto's and Sasuke's Level and got baby shook by Sasuke. And ichigo didn't destroy the dimension. Yukio just couldn't conntain ichigo's power with his own...*cough* Reiatsu Law *Cough*

If Kaguya was star level in AP she would've stomped Naruto and Sasuke to ground WHILE holding back. This isn't Goku vs Beerus fight where Beerus was looking for a playmate. Kaguya was seriously fighting Naruto and Sasuke and had intentions to kill them (she fired Ash bones).

So yes, Kaguya being star level would be completely nonsensical. This topic will likely get banned very soon and you're advised not to pursue this.

Faisal Shourov said:

'If Kaguya was star level in AP she would've stomped Naruto and Sasuke to ground WHILE holding back. This isn't Goku vs Beerus fight where Beerus was looking for a playmate. Kaguya was seriously fighting Naruto and Sasuke and had intentions to kill them (she fired Ash bones). 'So yes, Kaguya being star level would be completely nonsensical. This topic will likely get banned very soon and you're advised not to pursue this.

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1.)Nobodies Saying She's Star Level and that's not necessarily true either.

2.)If you read my post, you'd know By the time Kaguya resorted to killing, she already used up a lotr of chakra and was no longer at the level she was revived at. And even then, speed plays a big factor. Naruto was still capable of reacting to her and she even complemented his reactions and swiftness.

3.)Again, nobody is calling her star level. That was adressed in another thread. This going by the Planet level Key for ETSB.

When did Kaguya have serious intentions? For most of the entire fight she only wanted to steal their chakra for herself or remain on the defensive to prevent herself from getting sealed. Also no you cant determine she would stomp them even while holding back. If thats the case how much did she held back? A little? A lot? Your speculating on that part. There's literally no way to decide how much Kaguya was holding back, all we know is that she was holding back from the reasons above. Anything beyond that is pure speculation. Im not saying we should upgrade her but using a reason like that to keep her where she is when the reason is far from solid and is also assuming her casual to general attacks are on the same level as her ETSB AP is ridiculous.

"The Shins" Not Shin. LoL. Correction Naruto getting stab by a normal sword thanks to Shin's power. MS or Rinnegan don't change character's Strenght or Tier. They don't give him extra boost in power, just techniques and abilities.

According to you Ichigo didn't destroy it, so what do you call this:


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Looks to me like it turn asunder. By Reiatsu law if Yukio's can create a planet and a star in a pocket dimension in the real world with his and Ichigo destroyed, then he's reiatsu is stronger by law. Star lvl+ Ichigo. Lmaoo No. Stop wanking.

Yukio's dimensions are not the same thing because unlike Kaguya's, they arent real dimensions. They are simply pocket worlds that are PROGRAMMED by Yukio's Fullbring. He was really only able to make small realities the size of blocks due to Ichigo's reitsu that he programmed whatever settings into via his video game fullrbring.

Also, Yukio made those words with a device while Kaguya is refered to making them with her own abilities so they arent really on the level at all.

Anime4Life2020 said:

Yukio's dimensions are not the same thing because unlike Kaguya's, they arent real dimensions. They are simply pocket worlds that are PROGRAMMED by Yukio's Fullbring. He was really only able to make small realities the size of blocks due to Ichigo's reitsu that he programmed whatever settings into via his video game fullrbring.

Also, Yukio made those words with a device while Kaguya is refered to making them with her own abilities so they arent really on the level at all.

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Their Fullbring is a tool for them to use their powers, not a device.

http://static2.********.net/mangas/572/20067/013_10_22_2011_07_18_21.jpg

Ginjo stole Ichigo's power and share it with them, making Yukio able to use his powers outside of the game world. http://static2.********.net/mangas/572/20101/012_10_22_2011_07_18_30.jpg

Unlike Naruto, everything in the real world, has a soul including matter. That includes the stars making your point useless.

http://static2.********.net/mangas/572/20067/012_10_22_2011_07_18_21.jpg

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We can also discuss Multi-Galaxy lvl Greemy

http://pic.bleachcn.net/s/sishen/551-600/578/JOJO_006-007.png

And Universal Yhwach.

Lmaoo the wank here is unreal. (I'm kidding, by the way.)

HokageMangaVox said:

"The Shins" Not Shin. LoL. Correction Naruto getting stab by a normal sword thanks to Shin's power.

MS or Rinnegan don't change character's Strenght or Tier. They don't give him extra boost in power, just techniques and abilities.

According to you Ichigo didn't destroy it, so what do you call this:


http://static2.********.net/mangas/572/69413/003_12_10_2011_17_38_16.jpg

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Looks to me like it turn asunder. By Reiatsu law if Yukio's can create a planet and a star in a pocket dimension in the real world with his and Ichigo destroyed, then he's reiatsu is stronger by law. Star lvl+ Ichigo. Lmaoo No. Stop wanking.

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Um....No:













^Yes, the Shin's got schooled casually. And Sasuke's Blade is a Kusanagi Blade. Not a Normal Sword.

Did I say anything about Sasuke's stats? No. I pointed out that the only reason he got stabbed by the knives was because he didn't have the chakra to use Susanoo to protect Sarada with and thus used his body.

Except that unlike Yukios Dimensions, we know they're nothing similar to Real Dimensions like say the world of the Living in which his dimensions occupies a very very very small part of being it's nothing more than a box, or Hueco Mundo or Soul Society. With Reiatsu Law, Yukio's power wouldn't be able to contain Ichigo anyways. That's not a feat of power in the sense you are pushing it. It's no different than Aizen no selling Soi Fon's Shikai. Same principle. Now if ichigo did that to a real dimension, like Kaguya's are, you'd have a claim. But you don't

You said the Shins, while I said. SHIN. single. Not plural. I'm still right.

Sasuke refers carries the "Sword of Kusanagi", but it carries none of the unique attributes that Orochimaru's does. Period. Useless.

So? Knive durability? Lel

That small box has a whole replica of Karakura Town, that alone destroys your logic of being small, and nothing else can be inside of it. XD

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Which is the same thing you're doing. Is a real dimension, his power can be used in the real world. And is no longer chain to his gaming world. You on the other hand are doing the opposite of this. ^

And again, him using them outside of the game world doesnt make a difference. Yukio only made small box spaces and programmed whatever settings they had in them. IN the boxes they may seem real to whoever is in it but outside of them they are literally just small box spaces. It's nothing remotely the same as a real dimension like Kaguya and it cannot be compared to each other.

Also whatever's inside Yukio's dimensions =/= the real world. In the real world they are only in the form of boxes. Whatever happens inside them is totally different to that of the real world's laws.

Anime4Life2020 said:

And again, him using them outside of the game world doesnt make a difference. Yukio only made small box spaces and programmed whatever settings they had in them. IN the boxes they may seem real to whoever is in it but outside of them they are literally just small box spaces. It's nothing remotely the same as a real dimension like Kaguya and it cannot be compared to each other.

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It does. Since they are no longer programs, but real programed dimensions. Exactly, pocket dimensions can big on the inside and small in the outside that's the point. But as Yukio said it can't be destroyed from the outside. :v

We only saw one of Kaguya's dimension to be a planet. Where does it says that all of them all the same size? Proof.

Anime4Life2020 said:

Also whatever's inside Yukio's dimensions =/= the real world. In the real world they are only in the form of boxes. Whatever happens inside them is totally different to that of the real world's laws.

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Not really everything in Bleach is made from the same matter and energy. Which still contain souls, and souls contain Reishi.

Example: A lighting produced on Earth, and the afterlife. Is made from the same matter and energy according to verse law.

HokageMangaVox said:

1.)You said the Shins, while I said. SHIN. single. Not plural. I'm still right.
2.)Sasuke refers carries the "Sword of Kusanagi", but it carries none of the unique attributes that Orochimaru's does. Period. Useless.

3.)So? Knive durability? Lel

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1.)No, you're wrong, and I proved you wrong. Don't respond to me again with non-sense please.

2.)Sasuke's is not stated to be any less that orochimaru's for 1, So shut that noise up please. And second it's feats are greater. Don't respond to me about this again unless you have a link or scan please. Seriously, I will get negative.

3.)You're acting like a Kunai of Sword would Break on Sasuke's Body without Chakra cloaking. This isn't new.

4.)Take your Ichigo arguments to another thread. I'll debate it there. Compile all of your stuff.

HokageMangaVox said:

That small box has a whole replica of Karakura Town, that alone destroys your logic of being small, and nothing else can be inside of it. XD

http://static2.********.net/mangas/572/20102/006_10_22_2011_07_18_30.jpg

Which is the same thing you're doing. Is a real dimension, his power can be used in the real world. And is no longer chain to his gaming world. You on the other hand are doing the opposite of this. ^

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Okay and? Could it not have been because everything within that small box was smaller in size then the actual Karakura town? It's like if you have a dimension within something snowglobe size. It's more than likely that everything within the snowglobes dimension is just that, snowglobe size or smaller to remain within it. Yukio's dimensions being shown as small boxes>>>>anything on what you are trying to say. They are only big towards the ones trapped within them and nothing more. They are not real dimensions, they are merely only programmed spaces made real through his powered up fullrbring, which all he does is just program.....

Also to your earlier reply, whether his fullbring is a device or a tool it doesnt matter. It's not his own natural capabilities unlike Kaguya. Yukio couldnt even manipulate his very dimensions, a good reason why Toshiro kicked his ass with extreme ease. He relies on the tool, simple as that.

And what makes them considered no longer programs? They dont have any connections to the real world, hence them only existing inside the boxes. I dont even see how its remotely possible to program an actual dimension...it seems he only makes small spaces with his own energy and just sets the insides to be any setting you want them to be. Also that statement from him is an NLF.

What part of Kaguya only having one dimension with a planet makes sense? It doesnt. There's absolutely nothing that implies all her other dimensions are smaller than the one she was about to destroy. It's only with common sense and logical comparison that her dimensions are all the same exact size.

That would make Ichigo and Ginjo smaller in size. Which would give the same result. Otherwise they would be bigger than the buildings. Lol

Programmed dimensions =\= Dimensions in programs size.

Is Natural, since their power is to manipulate souls in matter and change it to their will. Everything in Nature has a soul, including matter.

NLF Kaguya, yes I know.

Nothing else implies they are the same size either. Lol "Evidence".

Yukio's dimensiom had a sun and another had a moon:

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This is pointless, but fun.

What part of make another thread don't you understand? lol

>Destroys Yukio's dimension by going Bankai which was simulating Karakura town

>Goe's Bankai in real World and nothing. Not even a normal human drops dead.

Yukio's dimensions aren't real dimensions, they are obviously not capable of holding powerful beings. They are nowhere similar to Hueco Mundo/Soul Society/World Of The Living which all exists outside of their personal realities.

If you don't understand that Hokage, then oh well, I don't want to hear it. Take it out of my thread to a new thread or i'll report you for derailling and getting off topic.

>Dimension that contain a sun, another had a moon. Lel

>He was already in Bankai. There's also something called Reiatsu control. Lel

>The components are real, so its real. You can compare pocket dimensions to actual size one's. I'm just comparing the AP. Lel

I'm not off topic. I'm still waiting for your counter to my replied about Kaguya, and that other guy too. Which I see none, so did you concede then? (I also said above that I was joking, to prove your inconsistency. The topic here is the dimension and is "sun".)

You may get ban for opening threads about Kaguya about a topic that was denied in a row.

HokageMangaVox said:

That would make Ichigo and Ginjo smaller in size. Which would give the same result. Otherwise they would be bigger than the buildings. Lol
Programmed dimensions =\= Dimensions in programs size.

Is Natural, since their power is to manipulate souls in matter and change it to their will. Everything in Nature has a soul, including matter.

NLF Kaguya, yes I know.

Nothing else implies they are the same size either. Lol "Evidence".

Yukio's dimensiom had a sun and another had a moon:

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http://static2.********.net/mangas/572/60525/001_11_30_2011_15_57_38.jpg

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This is pointless, but fun.

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Or maybe while inside his Fullbring they are smaller? Its not impossible since fullbrings in general have shown size manipulation theyve literally shrunk Ichigo the first time they were shown. At least 2 of them.

Programming doesnt have a set size unless given so saying they arent equal to each other doenst mean anything. You have nothing to counter against Yukio's dimensions being as big as you are claiming inside them, but only as small as boxes outside of them. All we can give Yukio is that he can make his programming real like what he was doing to his fullbring originally, thats it. That seems to be the case of what he does after he obtains some of Ichigo's power. Thus they arent real dimensions otherwise the need of making pocket realities to have the environments and battle fields in would be pointless as he'd just warp realitiy in the real world and do what he does without needing to make a space to have rule in. In fact, since you claim they cant be destroyed from the outside, that proves even more they have no connection to the real world while only those inside the virtual spaces can destroy them since they apart of their environemt.

If thats the case then why need a tool for Fullbring then? Clearly they cant manipulate it or, if anything, very well. Otherwise Yukio being "god" of his worlds would have fodderized Toshiro and he would have made everyone else ******* invincible. He has either none or next to no rule over his dimensions based off his showings.

No you dont. That NLF statement was for Yukio stating his realms cant be destroyed from the outside. Kaguya had nothing to do with that.

Except they do. They all have the same liveable space conditions, atmoshphere and climate, which you cant have unless its planet sized. Even then, why question them being the same size in the first place when absolutely nothing implies they arent the same size? You seem to be only questioning this just because your Yukio's dimensions are nothing of the same caliber and you wish to treat Kaguyas the same way for kicks. That would be downgrading.

And whats stopping me from saying those are just programmed ones for those pocket realms coming from a game themed Fullbring?

HokageMangaVox said:

>Dimension that contain a sun, another had a moon. Lel
>He was already in Bankai. There's also something called Reiatsu control. Lel

>The components are real, so its real. You can compare pocket dimensions to actual size one's. I'm just comparing the AP. Lel

I'm not off topic. I'm still waiting for your counter to my replied about Kaguya, and that other guy too. Which I see none, so did you concede then? (I also said the above was joking, to prove your inconsistency. The topic here is the dimension and is "sun".)

You may get ban for opening threads about Kaguya about a topic that was denied in a row.

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I didn't see any reply from you about Kaguya. If you posted, i'll look back.

And dude:

• Chapter 483, Ichigo goes Bankai in World of Living and Nothing.

• Chapter 493, Ichigo goes Bankai in Hueco Mundo and Nothing.

What about Stronger Characters?

• Aizen's Transformations in Decide Chapters

• Ichigo's Transformation into Mugetsu

• Yamamoto's Complete Shikai Power being stated to only destroy Karakura Town+

• Rukia going bankai

• Shunsui going Bankai

• Kenpachi going Shikai and Bankai

There is much much more to than that. Yes, Ichigo broke out of Yukio's dimension and yes, Yukio's dimension was simulatig the real world, but Yukio's dimension isn't the real world. It's proven not to be the real world or as durable as any dimension. You're saying ichigo can destroy dimensions similar to World of The Living / Hueco Mundo / Soul Society while being a weaker character when stronger characters can't destroy those dimensions by going Bankai or Shikai. Hell, they can't even kill fodder by transforming. The only ones are Aizen/Yamamoto with such feats.

So yes, Ichigo destroyed a pocket dimension that is in no way comparable to the real life counterpart it's trying to imitate. And he only did so becuse of th reiatsu law. Yukio's power can't contain someone vastly stronger. It's in no way similar to the 3 main dimensions nor is it comparable to Kaguya's Dimension.

It's in no way comparable to Kaguya's ETSB. You can try to wank it all you want.

Anyways, I also read through the other BS and nothing warrants a response. Hokagemangavox has yet to debunk anything in the OP and hs done nothing other than trying to make absurd Comparisons.

Hokage, your arguments have been debunked and your posts have taken a condescending, borderline trolling tone. Please cease and desist.

Akiretsu, you yourself have admitted that the only feats Kaguya performed after absorbing the chakra involved nlf and a single planetary technique that needed considerable prep time (for such characters, anyway).

We simply can't rate a character like that on these opinionated reasonings.

We also have no clue what the circumstances of the dimensions were created in the past (not that I'm implying you mentioned such). Meaning, even if we were to rate her according to her presumed prime, it would still be presumptuous as she was defeated by small planet level entities.

The answer is no.

TheMightyRegulator said:

Hokage, your arguments have been debunked and your posts have taken a condescending, borderline trolling tone. Please cease and desist.

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I know. XD But I'm sorry. It was fun while it lasted. Well, bye.


P.S.

Rukia going bankai

Shunsui going Bankai

Kenpachi going Shikai and Bankai

^ This never happen in the real world. Among other things you guys have wrong. (Akiretsu & Anime4Life2020) But I'm not going off topic again.

HokageMangaVox said:

TheMightyRegulator said:

Hokage, your arguments have been debunked and your posts have taken a condescending, borderline trolling tone. Please cease and desist.

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I know. XD But I'm sorry. It was fun while it lasted. Well, bye.


P.S.

Rukia going bankai

Shunsui going Bankai

Kenpachi going Shikai and Bankai

^ This never happen in the real world. Among other things you guys have wrong. (Akiretsu & Anime4Life2020) But I'm not going off topic again.

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WoL = HM = SS sooooo.....

TheMightyRegulator said:

We also have no clue what the circumstances of the dimensions were created in the past

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Im not going to dare to step in to the above argument but I think its safe to assume that kaguya created the dimensons in the same way she was going to create the dimension in the final fight. Through the ETSB. I mean, she has no other abilities that would allow her to create a dimension as far as I know, nor did she have anyone to help her in doing so...

Wait how is ETSB an nlf?

TheMightyRegulator said:

Hokage, your arguments have been debunked and your posts have taken a condescending, borderline trolling tone. Please cease and desist.
Akiretsu, you yourself have admitted that the only feats Kaguya performed after absorbing the chakra involved nlf and a single planetary technique that needed considerable prep time (for such characters, anyway).

We simply can't rate a character like that on these opinionated reasonings.

We also have no clue what the circumstances of the dimensions were created in the past (not that I'm implying you mentioned such). Meaning, even if we were to rate her according to her presumed prime, it would still be presumptuous as she was defeated by small planet level entities.

The answer is no.

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NLF? What did i mention a NLF again? o3o

And the sealing doesn't speak of her stats/power though. I mean in Naruto, Sealings can be broken if you're strong enough, Madara showed this on 2 occasions, Juubito showed this and Naruto Showed This, But SPCT strips her of her power. I mean, you said it's pressumptuous because she was defeated by Small Planet level Characters, but isn't it an assumption to say SPCT is only as strong as the User(s) instead of saying it's only effective against people at the level or below the strongest character it seals? SPCT shouldn't be a factor in determining Kaguya's power because from the get go we know she was much stonger than them and SPCT is shown to bypass that huge power gap.

But that being said, if i can take what you said at face value, that means that this wouldn't be accepted but only under the basis of not knowing how Kaguya's Dimensions came to be exctly? Which would mean that the scailing method isn't wrong though, right?

At the very least would this be sufficient enough to take off the "inconsistent" note in her profile?

Akiretsu said:

WoL = HM = SS sooooo.....

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Facepalm. No. This is just an example, we can have a private class if you want. So I can give you lessons. Maybe you will learn the difference between matter and energy.

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HokageMangaVox said:

Akiretsu said:

WoL = HM = SS sooooo.....

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Facepalm. No. This is just an example, we can have a private class if you want. So I can give you lessons. Maybe you will learn the difference between matter and energy.

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The effect spiritual beings have upon other beings in the realm =/= affecting the realm itself. So these scns don't mean anything to my statement.

@Akiretsu

TheMightyRegulator summarised why this will not be accepted, and I already closed two previous threads after this issue was resolved.

Creating new threads to continue anyway, and being overly argumentative in the process, is not acceptable behaviour in this wiki.

I will close this topic again. Consider this as a warning to permanently drop this subject. The staff do not have the time to indulge you indefinitely.

@TheMightyRegulator

Feel free to use my personal message wall to give suggestions for how to appropriately word a new rule for possibly banning this topic.